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    Sergio Martinez vs Miguel Cotto,7 iunie

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    Titlul mondial la mijlocie contestat de doua dintre cele mai mari staruri din ultimii ani.Chair daca Cotto s-a luptat sa fie el primul pe afise si postere campionul este Martinez asa ca eu il pun pe el primul.
    Va avea loc in Mecca boxului si a doua casa a lui Cotto-Madison Square Garden.

    Va fi Martinez prea mare pt Cotto?Va fi Roach cheia in acest meci?Accidentarile lui Martinez il vor deraia?

    Undercard:

    Andy Lee vs John Jackson
    Wilfredo Vazquez jr vs Marvin Sonsona II
    Jorge Melendez vs Yuri Foreman

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    http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/1...-training.html

    iami and South Florida no longer may be po****r sites for title fights, but world champions continue to visit the area to prepare for important bouts.

    Sergio Martinez is the latest titleholder making a local stop. The native of Argentina and Spain resident recently began training camp at Matt Baiamonte’s Boxing Club in Wynwood for the defense of his middleweight title against Miguel Cotto on June 7 in New York.

    “We considered Miami the perfect site because of its location between Madrid and New York,” Martinez said after a two-hour workout late Saturday afternoon. “We are also in the same time zone and that allows us to become adjusted to it sooner.”

    Martinez, 39, also is adapting to a long ring absence caused by a knee injury. He has not fought since a successful defense against Martin Murray 13 months ago in Argentina.

    “My conditioning has been phenomenal since we began training on Jan. 21,” Martinez said. “When you have 19 years of experience in this sport, the ring becomes like your second home. Although you might be sidelined for an extended time, you never stop being a boxer.”

    And before his knee injury, Martinez’s boxing skills had elevated him among the sport’s top pound-for-pound fighters. Now he is eager to resume his World Boxing Council title reign in a fight that he feels slighted even though he is the defending champion.

    The pay-per-view fight will be in Madison Square Garden — one of Cotto’s familiar and favorable surroundings. Cotto, a native of Puerto Rico, draws capacity crowds at Madison Square Garden and is 7-1 in the historic arena. Martinez’s only previous appearance at Madison Square Garden was his 11th-round TKO win over Matthew Macklin two years ago.

    Moreover, Cotto has the lead in the prefight promotional literature and on fight night, Cotto will walk into ring and have his name announced after Martinez, honors usually bestowed to the defending champion.

    “That motivates me tremendously, but then again I have always enjoyed the role of visitor,” Martinez said. “Boos and the likelihood I will have few people supporting me give me extra adrenaline. It is impossible for me not to find motivation in this fight. All the factors are very obvious.”

    Martinez (51-2-2, 28 KOs) also had to agree to a catch weight of 159 pounds — one under the middleweight limit — to face Cotto. A three-division world champion, Cotto (38-4, 31 KOs) is fighting as a middleweight for the first time in his career.

    “I expect him to cut the ring and go to the body,” Martinez said. “But he is not going to be able to withstand my pressure and busy pace. I will obligate him to fight him at my pace, and it will become uncomfortable for him.

    “He will end up being knocked out. I don’t see this fight going the distance.”

    Given his lengthy absence and age, Martinez will not consider future plans until his next two fights.

    “I have two bouts remaining with HBO, and after that, as we say in Argentina and football, we will stop the ball from rolling and analyze the entire field,” Martinez said.

    “Will we continue or walk away? But for my family’s sake, I am not going to allow a younger opponent [to] put me against ropes and land shots that would have never happened earlier in my career.”

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    Mexico’s Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Cuba’s Erislandy Lara participated in a four-city last week to hype their pay-per-view super-welterweight bout July 12 in Las Vegas.

    The fighters’ appearances began with stops in Los Angeles and San Antonio, where the Mexico native Alvarez is hugely po****r. The tour continued in New York and ended Friday in Puerto Rico.

    Oddly, Alvarez and Lara did not appear in Miami, city to the largest Cuban exile community in the United States. Although he now lives in Houston, Lara maintains a strong loyal following in Miami.

    Why New York and Puerto Rico and not Miami?

    Golden Boy Promotions, which will promote the bout, also wants to showcase one of the undercard fighters scheduled to appear on the telecast, according to a company spokesman. Puerto Rico’s Juan Manuel Lopez, a three-division world champion, will fight Francisco Vargas.

    “The reason nothing was done in Miami was because we would need more days for the media tour and we believed that with New York and Puerto Rico, where Lopez is from and where there is a large Cuban community, it was sufficient to target the Caribbean area instead of Miami,” Ramiro Gonzalez said.

    “There were also requests to visit Chicago, Houston, El Paso and San Francisco but we did not have enough days to make those trips.”

    Bermane Stiverne became the first native of Haiti to win a heavyweight title after his sixth-round TKO victory over Chris Arreola on Saturday night in Los Angeles. Stiverne (24-1-1, 21 KOs) floored Arreola (36-4) twice early in the sixth and then finished him with a flurry of unanswered combinations that resulted in the fight’s stoppage at 2:02 of the round. The win earned Stiverne the vacant World Boxing Council belt.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/1...#storylink=cpy

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    Unul dintre acele meciuri care inainte de a fi organizate ai fi spus ca e un mismatch. Acum ca s-a organizat, sunt sigur ca pare mai echilibrat. Te intrebi oare de ce Cotto l-ar infrunta pe Martinez ? Poate ca el si Roach vad ceva, o cale de succes, mai ales ca Martinez a aratat destul de rau in meciul cu Murray.

    In opinia mea e doar o incercare indrazneata a lui Cotto de a face istorie. Oricum nu mai are presiune de niciun fel, lumea nu se mai asteapta mare lucru de la el. In cel mai rau caz, iese invins impotriva unui adversar fizic mult mai mare si cu destui bani in buzunar. In cel mai bun caz, intra in istorie si mai sterge amarl din anumite infrangeri pe care le-a avut.

    Sincer, nu vad cum Cotto ar putea castiga meciul. L-as fi vazut pe Martinez favorit si daca fizic erau la fel de mari.
    Depinde totul de argentinian si de cum se va prezenta fizic. Daca va fi cat de cat competitiv, e un mismatch in opinia mea: mai inalt, mai greu, mai rapid, mai puternic, tehnic cel putin la fel de bun.

    In fine, Cotto este totusi un mare boxer si cine stie cu ce gameplan va veni. Totusi, as fi socat sa-l vad castigator in fata acelui Martinez pe care-l stim (cel cu P. Williams sau chiar cu Chavez Jr.)

    PS: e misto documentarul ala spaniol despre meci
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    Nu e documentar e un reportaj despre Martinez(daca la ala te referi).

    In mare parte sunt de acord dar dupa cum vedem Martinez mai peste tot apare cu tot felul de fase la cot si la genunchi si chiar el a declarat ca inca mai simte dureri la picior.
    E calr ca Miguel si ai lui vad o oportunitate imensa aici si se bazaeaza pe faptul ca Sergio nu o sa fie in cea mai buna forma.Altfel intradevar e greu sa faci un caz pt Miguel.
    Cum ai zis si tu Martinez are mai toate avantajele,plus ca este si stangaci si stim ce s-a intamplat cand Cott os-a luptat cu un stangaci ultima oara(Trout).
    Totusi cheia este la Roach-daca poate sa aiba un impact atat de mare in meci.Dupa mine cu Manny Steward(RIP) Cotto era prins undeva la mijloc intre stilul sau vechi si cel mai asezat din anii ma irecenti.Poate si adversarii au contribuit la asta.Eu cred ca trebuia sa-l bata pe Mayorga ceva mai lejer decat a facut-o.
    Pe de alta parte desi Pedro Diaz l-a ajutat tehnic si mai ales tactic l-a facut prea ''cubanez'',prea ganditor.Eu si acum cred ca desi asta l-a ajutat cu Mayweather(am si zis inainte de meci pe acel thread ca daca Miguel era mai agresiv isi lua KO) unde chiar si asa mai calm a fost scuturat rau in ultima repriza dupa ce a obosit, a fost in detrimentul sau cu Trout unde trebuia sa puna presiune mai mare.
    Aici a fost greseala lui Diaz.Cum exista boxeri unii dimensionali asa sunt si unii antrenori cred eu.Diaz poate fi un exemplu.Unul mai concret e Enzo Calzaghe.Altul e Darklordul insusi,Adam Booth.Au succes cu un boxer si vor ca restul sa boxeze pe acelasi stil.
    Acum Roach e exact opusul,antreneaza absolut orice stil incercand doar sa imbunatateasca si am vazut cu Rodriguez un Cotto vintage,o bestie.Sigur Delvin nu e Martinez dar comparabil cu Yuri Foreman cred ca e.

    Imi plac amandoi dar voi tine cu Cotto.De prin generala ma trezesc dimineata sa-l vad luptand.E altceva,probabil cum a fost Trinidad pt cei din generatia de inainte.

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    Face-offul:



    Excelent episod.Cred e uca Martinez a cam castigat acest meci,a aratat ma ibine si a vorbit mai mult aici.
    Foarte misto momentul cand amandoi l-au pus pe Kellermna sa aleaga invingatorul.

    De notat ca Martinez a aratat si aici si pe durata promotiei aceeasi ura pt Cotto pe care a aratat-o si pe Chavez jr.

    Miguel is in trouble...

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    La Diva

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    Deci impartasesti opinia lui Sergio?Sau doar ai fost amuzat de ce a zis?

    Intrebareaca uitam tot ce stim despre cei doi,ca i-am vazut de ani de zile,etc si ne uitam doar la ultimile lor meciuri(Martinez-Murray si Cotto-Rodriguez) pe cine ai merge?

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    Merg tot pe Martinez

    Inteleg frustrarea lui Martinez insa intradevar La Diva e Cotto si e greu de schimbat asta. Amandoi au dreptate

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    Nu omule Cotto e un razboinic.

    Anyway sper sa fie un meci misto.

    De undercard ce se mai aude?Am inteles ca Foreman nu s-a inteles cu cienva din echipa sa si s-a retras.Melendez va lupta cu Jorge Maciel.Melendez e promovat de Cotto si e un puncher adevarat insa fara alte calitati.E spectaculos.

    Sonsona-Vazquez II e un meci misto deasemenea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numero Dieci View Post
    Nu omule Cotto e un razboinic.
    A fost la categorii mai mici si de multe ori a luat bataie. Oricum, n-ai ce reprosa omului. I-a infruntat pe toti (si cand zic pe toti ma refer pe toti . Are calitati exceptionale dar si limite destul de mari (fizice in principal). Cum sa bata cel mai bun middle din ultimii ani ?
    Roach zice ca-l va face KO pe Martinez in 4 reprize Ma rog, sa vedem...as fi socat ca Cotto sa castige
    Last edited by Lucian86; 1st June 2014 at 23:03.

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    De multe ori...are 4 infrangeri din care 2 in ultimile 3 meciuri si nu as zice ca a luat bataie rau nici cu Mayweather si in nici un caz c uTrout.

    Cu Clottey unde a castigat(controversat ce-i drept) a incasat mai mult decat la aceste infrangeri.

    In fine vroiam doar sa subliniez ca e un zeu.


    Dar desi cred ca Martinez va castiga oarecum lejer ce se va intampal daca se va accidneta sau daca declinul sau va continua?
    M-am uitat recent la meci din nou,Cotto a fost senzational cu Rodriguez(si da stiu ca Delvin nu e Sergio),chair a fost incredibil cat de bine taia ringul,croseul de stanga si in general body workul a fost acolo si cel mai important imo mana dreapta a fucntionat-ceva ce nu credeam sa mai vad.Roach e meserias.

    Acxestea find spuse Martinez via KO.

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    Si uite ca m-am inselat

    E greu sa descifrezi acest meci. E clar ca Martinez parea umbra umbrei sale. Sa fi fost prima runda care a decis tot meciul sau pur si simplu s-a prezentat fizic si psihologic total nepregatit pentru meci ? Nu stiu. Se misca cat de cat in ring insa n-avea reflexe, nu avea ofensiva, defensiva..n-avea nimic...meci extrem de simplu pentru Cotto.
    Ma rog, indiferent de ce-a fost, e timpul sa se retraga. Deja cu Murray a aratat naspa. Trecand un an de atunci, credeam ca si-a revenit insa pare sa fi ajuns la sfarsit. Golovkin nici nu se mai pune in discutie.

    Cotto a aratat bine; parea intinerit. Ce-o sa faca acum cu centura asta la middle ? One hit wonder sau si-o va apara ? Nu-l vad sa lupte cu GGG..daca se va face meciul asta si va castiga Cotto eu ma las de box caci inseamna ca n-am inteles nimic din sportul asta

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    Mda, e timpul ca Martinez sa zica stop. Nu a aratat bine deloc. Nu doar Golovkin intra in discutie acum pentru Cotto, mai sunt Peter Quillin si Sam Soliman dintre campioni. Personal cred ca vom vedea un Cotto vs. Marco Antonio Rubio.

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    Rubio?Nici o sansa.De ce ar face Cotto asta?

    Cateva chestii:

    -Martinez desi a intit in unele interviuri inainte de meci cu mca e 150% vindecat a si zis adevarul in altele chiar mentionand ca are dureri la genunchi chiar si atunci cand merge.Preparatorul fizic al lui Cotto a si zis in 24/7 ca nu e normal ca poarta acele bandaje la ambii genunchi.
    -Sergio din pacate e terminat,nu mai poate lupta la acest nivel.
    -Incredibil cat de bine arata Cott osub Roach.Freddie nu numai a a imbunatati abilitatea de a taia ringul,apararea si a readus celebrul sau croseu de stanga dar a integrat si mana dreapta in arsenalul ofensiv lucru pe care personal nu credeam ca mai poate la acest nivel(si cu Rdriguez a folsit mana dreapta bine).
    -Aia de la HBO tot abureau ca Martinez nu si-a mai revenit dupa primul KD de parca nu a intrat accidentat in meci a la Barker cu Sturm.
    -Totusi cred ca acum 3 ani Martinez l-ar fi invins oarecumn lejer pe Cotto si aici e discutia-Cat credit ii dam lui Miguel pt aceasta victorie?A avut discutabil cea mai buna prestatie a carierei contra unui boxer de top sau pur si simplu a prins o conjunctura favorabila?

    Cred ca pt Cotto urmeaza invingatorul dintre Lara si Alvarez.Poate chiar si pierzatorul.Cotto poate alege pe oricine in fapt,el e cu banii si cu numele.

    Sunt super fericit pt Cotto-tipul e o legenda.Pacat de Martinez,un campion bun dar care ca si multi altii inaintea sa nu a prins acel meci in care sa se imbogateasca.

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    Am inteles ca Alvarez e interesat de un rematch cu Floyd.

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    Alvarez sa treaca prima oara de Lara si dupa aia sa se gandeasca la altii.

    Oricum credit mexicanului,s-a batut consecutiv cu Trout,Mayweather,Angulo si acum urmeaza Lara si din ce se aude Cotto dupa.

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    L-am vazut pe Rubio intr-un ranking WBC si m-am gandit ca ar putea fi dat ca si challenger. Just saying...urmatorul meci ar trebui sa fie cu cineva pe care sa il bata sigur, ca doar nu a luat titlul ca sa-l piarda.
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