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  1. 2nd March 2010, 21:11 #295
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    Aham..deci Ricna. Trebuie sa tin minte de acum.

    Ce tare e Kononenko...va avea un element, desi nu a participat pana acum la competitiile majore. Oare va prinde o competitie mare? . Am inteles ca are probleme la genunchi si la spate.


    @Ada..in afara de Markelov/Ray...care e Ricna...se vede treaba ce ne-am descurcat. Viitorul suna bine
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  3. 2nd March 2010, 21:18 #296
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    S-ar putea sa prinda Mihai, ei au si mai putine gimnaste decat Romania

    Da, Mihai suntem buni -mai ales ca e prima incercare.
    Pacat de ratarea la desprindere, ma mir ca nu ne-a trimis Oana sa revedem montajul cu desprinderile de la paralele de 10 de ori.
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    Mai, voi vreti sa ii faceti concurenta Oanei
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyy View Post
    M-am uitat azi la paralelul lui Kononenko de la Cupa Ucrainei...ce face la secunda 0:26??
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvl1gXNHWGo

    Cumva: stalder 360 + Tkachev 180 (??) + Jaeger ?
    Nu a facut cumva He Kexin acelasi element la finala pe aparate la olimpiada si mondiale? In orice caz...nu e Markelov! Si cred ca primeste bonificatie...6.5 sau 6.6 e destul de mic!
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  6. 16th March 2010, 22:59 #299
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    Un document destul de mare [51 de pagini!] alcatuit de FIG pentru a clarifica aspecte din codul de puntaj al fetelor si pentru a reduce diferentele intre modurile de arbitraj: http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/vsite/...-0-file,00.pdf

    Abia am inceput sa ma uit in el, pare sa acopere multe parti din cod. O initiativa foarte buna, sper sa gasim si noi raspuns la unele neclaritati aici
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    Foarte util documentul! Acum imi explic putin de ce Ana nu a primit cuibul in calificari la mondiale, conteza pozitia piciorului cel mai de jos.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuuY_...eature=related

    Ce de elemente la barna
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  9. 15th April 2010, 12:25 #302
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    Am citit un lucru foarte interesant pe TAAF.

    Se pare ca in viitor (nu se stie exact de cand anume) gimnastii (fete si baieti) vor trebui sa prezinte 2 sarituri in calificari, iar nota de la executie sa inceapa de la 5 si nu de la 10. Iar pentru cele 2 sarituri nu se va face media ci doar totalul.
    Mai e un lucru pe care nu l-am inteles exact..si anume care va fi diferenta dintre cei care vor face 2 sarituri diferite si cei care vor repeta aceeasi saritura. Din cate am dedus va fi totusi o diferenta, in favoarea celor care vor executa 2 sarituri diferite.

    Putin cam ciudat, dar mi se pare interesant...si e o idee buna.
    Sa vedem ce va iesi.
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  10. 4th May 2010, 19:36 #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cata_RB View Post
    Bross are 6.2 plecare la sol!!! Nu stiu cat de corect i-o fi fost acordata plecarea, dar e cea mai mare nota atinsa pana acum pe noul cod.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfCB...eature=channel

    Am avut chef de ceva analize si iata D-ul Rebeccai:
    acrobatica:
    salt intins inainte (B) + dublu grupat inainte (E) [0.2 bonus] + stag jump (A) [0.1 bonus]
    salt 540 inapoi (C) + salt 720 inainte (D) [0.2 bonus]
    salt 900 inapoi (D) + salt 360 inainte (C) [0.2 bonus]
    artistica:
    cloche la cap (C)
    cloche cu 180 (C)
    cadet 360 (D) - discutabil
    pirueta dubla cu piciorul la 90 (D) -discutabil

    total: 1E, 4D, 3C, bonus 0.7 = 6.2

    Fata de exercitiul de anul trecut a adaugat acea saritura la prima linie si a inlocuit la ultima linie saltul cu 180 cu unul cu 360.
    Mi se pare un exercitiu foarte inteligent construit...desi are 3 C-uri in integral, reuseste prin bonusul urias sa ajunga la 6.2
    Sa nu mai spun ca are doar 3 diagonale...
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    imi raspundeti si mie la o intrebare?va rooooooog!
    ce bonificatii sunt daca leg b+b+e(un b=flic,alt b=tot cu filc,e=salt inapoi intins)
    dar b+c+e(b=flic,c=salt cu deschidere ,e=salt inapoi echer)
    dar d+d+c+c(un d=damilova,d=damilova aterizata de ambele picioare,c=salt inapoi grupat,c=salt inapoi echer)
    vedeti ca toate aceste elemente sunt la barna
    imi raspundeti cand aveti timp
    multumesc!
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  12. 5th June 2010, 23:18 #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitzGym View Post
    imi raspundeti si mie la o intrebare?va rooooooog!
    ce bonificatii sunt daca leg b+b+e(un b=flic,alt b=tot cu filc,e=salt inapoi intins)
    dar b+c+e(b=flic,c=salt cu deschidere ,e=salt inapoi echer)
    dar d+d+c+c(un d=damilova,d=damilova aterizata de ambele picioare,c=salt inapoi grupat,c=salt inapoi echer)
    vedeti ca toate aceste elemente sunt la barna
    imi raspundeti cand aveti timp
    multumesc!
    B+B+E = 0.2 bonus
    B+C+E = 0.2 bonus
    La seria de 4 elemente nu ma descurc sa le grupez si nu stiu cum se acorda. Dar legarea de 2 DaNilove nu mi se pare posibila din punct de vedere al miscarilor necesare.
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    mersi frumos
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    dar daca leg flic(b)+salt inapoi echer(e)
    ce bonificatii am?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitzGym View Post
    dar daca leg flic(b)+salt inapoi echer(e)
    ce bonificatii am?
    Banuiesc ca te referi la barna...
    Saltul inapoi echer este C, nu E. Legarea ar fi B+C si nu are bonificatie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cata_RB View Post
    Banuiesc ca te referi la barna...
    Saltul inapoi echer este C, nu E. Legarea ar fi B+C si nu are bonificatie.
    pai nu e chiar echer,e intins mai mult,ce va avut si sandra la europene in 2009,ce avea si catalina din 2004 pana in 2007
    dar eu asa vad pe wikipedia,si de aia zic echer,el e mai mult intins
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitzGym View Post
    pai nu e chiar echer,e intins mai mult,ce va avut si sandra la europene in 2009,ce avea si catalina din 2004 pana in 2007
    dar eu asa vad pe wikipedia,si de aia zic echer,el e mai mult intins
    Si Catalina si Sandra aveau salt echer, care e C. Varianta intins este E, asa cum face Ana Porgras de exemplu.
    Nu sunt foarte usor de deosebit.
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    Un cuib frumos, nu?

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    Da, foarte frumos. Cine e in poza?
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    WOW!!

    Nu e cumva photoshop? E prea frumos sa fie adevarat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitzGym View Post
    imi raspundeti si mie la o intrebare?va rooooooog!
    ce bonificatii sunt daca leg b+b+e(un b=flic,alt b=tot cu filc,e=salt inapoi intins)
    dar b+c+e(b=flic,c=salt cu deschidere ,e=salt inapoi echer)
    dar d+d+c+c(un d=damilova,d=damilova aterizata de ambele picioare,c=salt inapoi grupat,c=salt inapoi echer)
    vedeti ca toate aceste elemente sunt la barna
    imi raspundeti cand aveti timp
    multumesc!
    teoretic d+d+c+c sint + 0,3 zecimi de bonificatie cu elementele descrise de tine
    practic este greu de primit
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