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    IndyCar Series 2008

    Dupa toata nebunia din ultimele luni, a ramas doar Indy Car. Va reusi sa rivalizeze cu ceea ce a fost CART in anii '90? Personal nu cred, insa oricum vor avea nevoie de ani buni pentru a ajunge acolo. Calendarul pt 2008 este urmatorul

    Mar 29 HOMESTEAD-MIAMI SPEEDWAY
    Apr 6 STREETS OF ST. PETERSBURG
    Apr 19 TWIN RING MOTEGI
    Apr 20 LONG BEACH*
    Apr 27 KANSAS SPEEDWAY
    May 25 INDIANAPOLIS MOTOR SPEEDWAY
    Jun 1 MILWAUKEE MILE
    Jun 7 TEXAS MOTOR SPEEDWAY
    Jun 22 IOWA SPEEDWAY .875-MILE OVAL
    Jun 28 RICHMOND INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY
    Jul 6 WATKINS GLEN INTERNATIONAL
    Jul 12 NASHVILLE SUPERSPEEDWAY
    Jul 20 MID-OHIO SPORTS CAR COURSE
    Aug 9 KENTUCKY SPEEDWAY
    Aug 24 INFINEON RACEWAY
    Aug 31 RACEWAY AT BELLE ISLE PARK
    Sept 7 CHICAGOLAND SPEEDWAY

    *Long Beach va fi ultima cursa Champ Car, se vor folosi sasiurile Panoz, iar sistemul de punctaj va fi dupa regulile IRL
    Pe langa acestea isi vor mai face loc etapele de la Edmonton, pe la mijlocul sezonului, si cea de la Surfer's Paradise din Australia la sfarsit.

    Echipe\Piloti:

    Andretti Green Racing - Marco Andretti
    Andretti Green Racing - Tony Kanaan
    Andretti Green Racing - Hideki Mutoh
    Andretti Green Racing - Danica Patrick
    Team Penske - Ryan Briscoe
    Team Penske - Helio Castroneves
    Target Chip Ganassi Racing - Dan Wheldon
    Target Chip Ganassi Racing - Scott Dixon
    Target Chip Ganassi Racing - Alex Lloyd
    Vision Racing - Ed Carpenter
    Vision Racing - AJ Foyt IV
    Dreyer & Reinbold Racing - Milka Duno
    Dreyer & Reinbold Racing - Buddy Rice
    Rahal Letterman Racing - Ryan Hunter-Reay
    Roth Racing - Jay Howard
    Roth Racing - Marty Roth
    Luczo Dragon Racing - Tomas Sheckter
    Panther Racing - Vitor Meira
    A.J. Foyt Enterprises - Darren Manning
    Sarah Fisher Racing - Sarah Fisher

    O parte din acesti piloti nu vor concura intregul sezon. Eu stiu doar de Sarah Fisher si Milka Duno...

    Din fostele echipe din Champ Car. In mare parte doar speculatii.

    Newman Haas Lanigan - Graham Rahal
    Newman Haas Lanigan - Justin Wilson
    Walker\Team Australia - Will Power + posibil o a doua masina
    Minardi - Robert Doornbos + posibil o a doua masina
    PCM - Alex Figge + posibil o a doua masina
    Conquest - Franck Perera + posibil o a doua masina
    KV Racing - Oriol Servia + posibil o a doua masina
    Dale Coyne Racing - Bruno Junqueira

    Dupa cum puteti vedea lipseste Forsythe si cu al sau Paul Tracy. Forsythe e posibil sa nu apara, iar Paul Tracy, cine stie...

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    Ar fi pacat sa nu-l vedem pe Tracy, iar Forsythe este un numel cu greutate in cursele de monoposturi americane. Ar putea aparea si cursele din Edmonton, Elkhart Lake si Queensland din cate am inteles. Orice am spune acum, prin aceasta unificare s-a creat un mare haos. Personal ma bucur intr-un fel ca exista din nou o serie cu peste 20 de monoposturi pe grila, dar pe de alta parte nu cred ca spectacolul din anii 90 sa revina prea curand. CART-ul avea la sfarsitul anilor 90 nu mai putin de patru motoare (Honda, Ford, Toyota si Mercedes), trei sasiuri (Lola, Reynard si Swift - superb era modelul lui Michael Andretti), pe cand acum exista un singur sasiu si un singur motor

    P.S. @ Pending, Se intampla sa ai un wallpaper cu monopostul lui Michael Andretti , numarul 6 black de la Newman/Haas ? Mi-ar produce o mare bucurie sa-l revad.

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    Multumesc, Pending prietene. Ce vremuri frumoase in anii '90... Dupa mine sasiurile de atunci au fost cele mai reusite, atat ca design cat si ca performanta.

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    mă gândesc că 2 echipe din CC care au fiecare câte un pilot să fuzioneze și apară o singură echipă, 2 piloți și mai mulți bani ...
    știu că au mai fost cazuri în CC în acest fel ...

    m-am tot gândit ... să mâncăm colivă după CC sau să bem șampanie pentru IC ... prefer să beau un păhar mare de șampanie și să mănânc o linguriță mică de colivă ... Sigur că regret că s-a terminat cu CC, dar decât să mă uit la monotonul F1 mai bine urmăresc cu plăcere IC ...
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    Ai dreptate Mario. Daca ne gandim mai bine, CC-ul a cam murit din 2004 incoace putin cate putin, adica dupa plecarea lui Penske, Andretti si Ganassi totul a luat-o in jos, apoi a venit schimbarea cu Panozul, apropierea de Europa etc. Nu mai era acelasi spirit. Orice am spune, spiritul Indy e tot in State, pe ovale, pe circuitele stradale. Deci, un pahar de sampanie si pentru mine.

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    de pe indycar.com. Expresia lui Bruno Junqueira spune tot

    http://www.indycar.com/news/2008/ser...r-02272008.jpg

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    turmentat, speriat, nedumerit
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    Putin stingher mi se pare, dar cred ca si pilotii CC-ului au fost la fel de confuzati ca si noi in ultimele saptamani.

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    Trist

    Forsythe Championship Racing Ceases Operations

    Paul Tracy’s hopes of being a part of the newly unified IndyCar Series hit a roadblock Thursday when his Forsythe Championship Racing team announced it would not be making the transition from the Champ Car World Series.

    “It simply comes down to finances,” said Neil Micklewright, VP of Operations for FCR. “We’ve been unable to find sponsorship, and so Forsythe Championship Racing is done.

    “We will be taking part in the Long Beach Grand Prix to fulfill our legal obligation to the track. We’ll have at least three cars, maybe more.”

    The Long Beach entries will be run by Forysthe Racing, the team’s Atlantic Series arm, which will continue operations. Canadian James Hinchcliffe and Mexican David Garza, who logged the fastest and second-fastest times, respectively, in a recent open test at Sebring International Raceway, will drive for the team in the 2008 Cooper Tires Presents The Atlantic Championship Powered by Mazda.

    Tracy, who has driven for Forsythe in Champ Car since 2003 (when he won the series title with the team), was uncertain about his next move, but emphasized that the unified IndyCar Series remains his top priority.
    Tracy (left) and Micklewright: a strong team broken up for lack of sponsorship.

    “I’m in shock and I’m very, very disappointed,” related the Canadian star. “I haven’t spoken to Jerry since our meeting last December, but I think I can say we both left that meeting feeling renewed, invigorated and ready to go racing.

    “Since that meeting, a lot has changed of course, but I thought that with that same kind of spirit in the team, we could have challenged for victory at the Indy 500. I believe I’m one of the best oval drivers in the country, and with the strong crew that we had in place, we could have been contenders.

    “Right now, I need to quickly regroup, regain my composure and then start looking for another ride – and I mean in IndyCar. The team may be done, but I’m ready to go racing.”

    Although Forsythe’s participation in a unified series had been the subject of much speculation since merger rumors first began, FCR’s Micklewright maintained that the rationale for the move was purely financial, and that the team still has hopes of regrouping for 2009.

    “The way the team was coming together with new personnel and great investment by Jerry allowing our technical department to really do its stuff, I reckon we’d have been a real force in Champ Car in 2008,” he said. “With the IndyCar rules being so much more open, for things like damper investment, flanged wheels and wind tunnel time, we’d have been running around at the back unless we’d have spent a hell of a lot more money. Without sponsorship, that wasn’t going to happen.

    “I’m going to try and keep a core group going so that we might try and run IndyCars in 2009 – I believe that is still a possibility. But again it’s dependent on sponsorship.”
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    Primele rezultate din 2008. Danica Patrick in top la Homestead, dar unde sunt pilotii CCWS? Ii vom vedea oare in actiune la Sebring?

    1. Danica Patrick Andretti-Green 25.0772
    2. Ryan Briscoe Penske 25.0920
    3. Dan Wheldon Ganassi 25.1009
    4. AJ Foyt IV Vision 25.1059
    5. Scott Dixon Ganassi 25.1163
    6. Hideki Mutoh Andretti-Green 25.1463
    7. Helio Castroneves Penske 25.1698
    8. Tony Kanaan Andretti-Green 25.2326
    9. Ed Carpenter Vision 25.2841
    10. Marco Andretti Andretti-Green 25.2948
    11. Vitor Meira Panther 25.3520
    12. Ryan Hunter-Reay Rahal-Letterman 25.4169
    13. Buddy Rice Dreyer & Reinbold 25.4686
    14. Milka Duno Dreyer & Reinbold 25.5604
    15. Darren Manning Foyt 25.5932
    16. Marty Roth Roth 26.0641

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    Pilotii\echipele din CC nu au pe ce sa concureze. Nu au monoposturi inca. Din cate stiu eu, vor putea sa testeze separat peste ceva timp...

    Tracy s-ar putea sa ajunga la Vision Racing, echipa lui Tony George. Oh, cata ironie...

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    ce ciudat este să mai ai doar o lună de zile până la startul noului sezon și să nu ai pe ce să "alergi" ...
    cred că în acest sezon echipele din CC nu au nici o șansă la titlu ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dumy84 View Post
    dar unde sunt pilotii CCWS? Ii vom vedea oare in actiune la Sebring?
    Daca e sa na luam dupa lista de la de pe indycar.com, nu ii vom vedea nici la Sebring. http://www.indycar.com/news/2008/ser...articipant.pdf

    Echipele din CC, daca vor reusi sa se claseze in primele 10 spre sfarsitul sezonului va fi foarte bine. Singurul din pilot din Champ Car pe care il vad cu sanse sa fie printre primii ar fi Paul Tracy, dar cu conditia sa prinda o a treia masina la Ganassi sau Penske asa cum vrea el, iar asta e foarte putin probabil.

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    Iata un fapt interesant care spune multe...Cel mai bun timp reusit de un monopost IndyCar la Sebring a fost de 53.517 sec, performanta apartinandu-i lui Tony Kanaan. Prin comparatie, Franck Perrera reusea in primele, singurele si se ultimele teste de anul acesta din Champ Car un 49.806 sec, pe acelasi circuit de la Sebring. Deci Panozul bate de departe Dallara ! Cel putin asa reiese din aceasta comparatie. Nu am gasit nimic despre existenta unor conditii meteo potrivnice.

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    tot 3 sec si ceva a fost diferenta la un test pe homestead (nu pe oval) acum cateva luni.

    Pana una alta o veche cunostiinta de-a nostra, Max Papis va concura la Indy..

    http://motorsport.com/news/article.a...320&FS=INDYCAR

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    francezul Max Papis ... am crezut că este la pensie ...
    au trecut ceva ani de când nu am mai auzit de el ...
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    A mai concurat prin American Le Mans Series. Dar oricum va fi o singura cursa, Indy 500, unde se poarta readucerea in prim-plan a veteranilor sau a pilotilor retrasi, vezi Michael Andretti.

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    se pare ca au facut calendarul pentru 2009 deja. 10 ovale si 10 circuite normale.

    1) March 14-Homestead (Oval)
    2) March 21-Streets of St. Petersburg (Road)
    3) April 3-Surfer’s Paradise (Road)
    4) April 10-Montegi (Oval)
    5) April 24-Long Beach (Road)
    6) May 2- Mexico City (Road)
    7) May 25-Indianapolis (Oval)
    8) June 6-Milwaukee (Short Oval)
    9) June 13-Texas (Oval)watch
    10) June 20-Nashville (Short Oval)
    11) June 27-Iowa (Short Oval)
    12) July 4-Mid Ohio (Road)
    13) July 11-Watkins Glen (Road)
    14) July 18-Toronto (Road)
    15) July 25-Michigan (Oval)
    16) Aug 1-Belle Isle (Road)
    17) Aug 8-Kentucky (Oval)
    18) Aug 15-Edmonton (Road)
    19) Aug 22-Infineon (Road)
    20) Aug 29-Chicagoland (Oval)

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    Unde ai gasit calendarul ala? Nici cel pe 2008 nu este inca pus la punct, deci ma indoiesc sa-l fi rezolvat pe urmatorul.

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    nu mai tin minte cum se numea site-ul. Dar bine, si eu am unele indoieli, in primul rand ca era un site de care nu mai auzisem pana atunci, si in al doilea, parca e prea ..perfect calendarul asta, adica 50/50 cursele.... ar fi bine daca ar fi asa. Deci nu bag mana in foc pentru asta

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