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    Sickboy ,daca jocul lui nu te-a convins primesti raspunsul in 12 iunie cind se alege MVP of the year unde Forsberg e nominat cu Naslund si Brodeur.Chiar mai sus am scris ca Sakic nici nu a jucat mai tot campionatul anul acesta iar un fundas ca Blake nu prea vad cum el face jocul echipei...Forsberg for president ! Dorin

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    Dorin,l-am vazut jucind pe Forsberg de mai multe ori si cred ca este unul dintre cei mai completi jucatori din NHL;dar tre' sa ti cont cu ce coechipieri joaca-Sakic,Hejduk,Blake.
    Apropo de accidentari,am auzit de jucatori care au jucat cu un picior rupt...
    "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out"

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    Sick boy , nu cred ca l-ai vazut pe Forsberg jucind vre-o data. Cine are cele mai multe -/+ puncte este dovada a importantei lui pentru echipa . Si cind Sakic a fost accidentat anul acesta a tinut echipa singur. Hejduk a dat toate golurile din pasele lui...Si cind Forsberg a fost departe un an a avut si motive .Ultima accidentare inainte de intrerupere a fost ruptura de splina cind a pierdut peste 3 litrii de singe si a riscat sa moara ! Operatia de urgenta l-a salvat .A fii fara splina este o tragedie pentru un om activ dar ce este pentru un sportiv ?Ai auzit de depresie si anxietate pentru moarte?? Si cind s-a intors a ales singur un salariu mai mic si un contract mai scurt ca sa nu provoace eventuale greutati echipei. Pentru mine este un erou .
    Chiar daca este atit de mare participa si la mondiale in Finlanda si absolut gratis !!! Dorin

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    Acu' m-am mutat si in America!...

    Naslund Rules !!!
    Forsberg joaca doar cind vrea el,nu tine cont de echipa...dovada sezonul in care nu a jucat din cauza ca era obosit de cite accidentari a avut.
    "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out"

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    Observ ca voi din America nu prea ii agreati pe europeni .Este jocul dur , fizic si cu suturi la poarta de oriunde (datorita si unui teren mai mic dejoc ) mai frumos decit driblingurile si pasele geniale bazate si pe un patinaj fantastic ? Jucatori ca Jagr ,Hasek , Forsberg (mai ales) ca sa nu mai vorbim de toti rusii sint atit de dominanti !Si ei cistiga si trofeele individuale tot mai des . Forsberg for the MVP of the year!!!! Dorin
    PS Ati vazut ce scor are Forsberg la -/+ ???

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    Merci pt. explicatie. Chiar nu stiam. Deci este diferit de NBA. In NBA este :
    A. 1-8
    B.2-7
    C.3-6
    D.4-5

    iar pe urma : A-D , B-C

    Mi se pare mai marfa si mai corect la NHL.
    One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces.

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    N.H.L.

    Am facut acest subiect pentru ca am vazut o gramada de specialisti in NHL pe acest forum. Si pe mine ma intereseaza foarte mult..liga profesionista de peste Ocean...chiar daca nu prea am ocazia sa o urmaresc. Dar sunt la curent cu jucatorii si echipele...intr-o oarecare masura.

    Am urmarit un singur meci din NHL live , din pacate. Ultimul All-Star Game la care a iesit Wayne Gretzky MVP. In Orlando parca s-a disputat.
    In rest...urmaream pe Acasa cand dadeau ei numai sport duminica.
    Iar in prezent mai vad faze pe CNN la World Sport.

    In sfarsit.

    Mie imi plac foarte mult portarii. Preferatzii mei sunt Patrick Roy de la Colorado si Nicolai Khabibulin care pe vremuri apara la phoenix Coyotes. Acum daca nu ma insel este la Tampa Bay Ligtnings.
    Si bineinteles...Dominik Hasek....care a iesit de 2 ori consecutiv MPV-ul ligii..pe vremea cand apara la Buffalo Sabres.
    Si mai imi place si de celebrul Curtis Joseph ,dar care nu mai stiu unde joaca.

    Dintre jucatori : Selane si Paul Karya de pe vremea cand jucau impreuna la Mighty Ducks. Celebra echipa a lu' Detroit..cu Brandon Shanahan , Yzerman, Fedorov ...si ceilaltzi . Si Colorado cu suedezul Forsberg..si celallt centru care imi scapa acum....dar e la fel de bun ca Forsberg !

    Hai..zicetzi si voi de cine va place si mai povestiti-mi ce mai e prin NHL la ora actuala...caci imi place sa citesc .

    10q
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    echipele NHL au pierdut 300 mio. $ sezonul trecut

    NEW YORK -- NHL teams posted record losses of nearly $300 million last season, according to figures distributed to owners this summer.

    That was an increase of 35 percent from the $218 million in operating losses incurred by the league last year.

    The losses are blamed on soaring player salaries. Without a salary cap, the NHL spent 76 percent of $1.93 billion in revenue on players salaries and benefits. That is a greater percentage than in the NBA, NFL or major league baseball.

    "This is a level at which no business can survive," Bill Daly, the NHL's chief legal officer, told The Wall Street Journal in an article about league finances. "The league will lose teams and players will lose jobs if we can't fix this."

    The NHL would not comment further to The Associated Press.

    The league will seek what commissioner Gary Bettman calls "cost certainty," in bargaining a new collective agreement with its players association. The current deal expires in September 2004 and there are expectations that negotiations will be stormy, possibly resulting in a strike or lockout.

    The NHL locked out players for 103 days in 1994 and reportedly has assembled a $300 million war chest as it prepares for contract talks.

    [source http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1619309]

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    CuJo e de anu asta la Detroit.
    celalalt de la Coloado e Sakic.

    My All-Star lineup:

    East:

    Mogilny(TOR)-Lemieux(PIT)-Kovalev(PIT)
    Zhitnik(BUF)-Gonchar(WSH)

    G: Theodore(MTL)

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    West:


    Guerin(DAL)-Sakic(COL)-Naslund(VAN)
    Blake(COL)-Lindström(DET)

    G: Roy (COL)



    OilersFan:

    in conditii ideale lineup-ul lui Pittsburgh ar arata asa:

    Morozov-Lemieux-Kovalev
    Straka-Hrdina-Robitalle
    Nieminnen-Primeau-Lacoture
    McKenna-Manderville-Donovan(Vujtek)

    (de aparare mai bine nu vorbim ca nu este, exceptie Dick Tarnström care cel putin PP juca mai bine decit Ozonlish, pina la accidentare cel putin, chiar si fara bonusul Lemieux (pentru cei ce n-au auzit, bonusul Lemieux spune ca, si un hidrant ar marca 40 de goluri pe sezon daca joaca in aceeasi linie cu Lemieux (exemple: Kevin Stevens, Rick Tocchet, Petr Nedved)))

    comparativ cu 00/01 nu e chiar asa de impresionant, avind in vedere ca lineup-ul a aratat asa:

    Hrdina-Lemieux-Jagr 240 puncte (102 goluri din 281 total) la 202 meciuri
    Straka-Lang-Kovalev 270 puncte (103 goluri din 281 total) la 243 meciuri

    dar cel putin pina acum :

    Morozov-Lemieux-Kovalev 119 puncte (42 goluri din 86 total)la 84 meciuri, inca e top scoring line din NHL.

    nu-i rau pentru un team cu un buget de cca 34 mio (Rangers 65 mio) care in plus se afla in reconstructie si ca anul trecut e lovit de accidentari
    (linia a doua arata asa: Hrdina-Kraft-Sivek , unde Kraft si Sivek pina acu 2 saptamini au jucat la Wilkes-Barre (AHL))


    pe cine-l tine stomacul si engleza, poate asculta cam toate meciurile pe NHL radio (www.nhl.com); l-am prins de citeva ori chiar si pe legendarul Mike "get that dog off my lawn" Lange pe WSW.

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    Theodore? Theodore ia mult mai multi bani decat merita . A avut un sezon de exceptie anul trecut , dar acum joaca submediocru. La fel si Iginla.
    Pentru East, Brodeur(Devils) in poarta, rezerve Belfour(Leafs) si Khabibulin(Tampa).

    Blake are un sezon slab. Mai potriviti: Jovanovski(Canucks) , Niinima (Oilers), Zubov(Stars). De acord, Lindstrom e intangibil. Patrick Roy.....past his prime..I think. Acum sunt cel putin trei goalies care joaca mai bine. In ordine: Turco (Stars), Salo (Oilers), Cloutier(Canucks).

    Astazi: Oilers at Wild. Meci foarte important. Live on TV .Si Pens la Coyotes. Sper ca pens sa castige.. Ma bucur cand o echipa din East bate una din West (cu exceptia Oilersilor, of course), cresc sansele noastre sa prindem playoffs. Dar East sa bata West...nu se prea intampla, 'cause everybody knows WEST IS THE BEST!

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    "Theodore? Theodore ia mult mai multi bani decat merita . A avut un sezon de exceptie anul trecut , dar acum joaca submediocru. La fel si Iginla. "

    iti mai zic vreo 50 din categoria asta, incepid cu tot rosteru' lu' NYR

    Brodeur traieste din stilul de joc al lu' NJD, altfel n-ar avea procetaju ala de saves.

    Jovanovski, Niinima, OK dar nu starting line. cind o sa aibe 5 sezone consecutive consistente (OK, Niinima e pe-aproape).

    Sper sa iasa ceva, anu' asta cu play-offu' la Edmonton, de s-ar tine echipele canadiene bine in ciuda recesiunii...

    East a dominat la inceputul aniiilor '90, apoi Detroit a cumparat de 2 ori cupa
    Si de nu se hotarea guvernu' canadian sa sprijine Ottawa in loc de Quebec ...

    thank you Bettman for bringing hockey to Nashville, so that people can play banjo during intermission!!!

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    My All-Star lineup:

    EAST:

    Hackett-Aucoin,Boynton-PJ Stock,J.Thornton,G.Murray


    WEST:

    Cloutier-Lidstrom,Jovanovsky-Guerin-J.Allison,Bertuzzi
    "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out"

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    Am vazut si eu la faza zilei de la CNN ce greseala au facut Sharks in meciul cu Rangers...de a inscris Lindros golul victoriei.

    Hai sa zic si eu cu cine am votat , desi am votat aiurea...caci nu am urmarit situatzia din acest sezon.

    Western Conference

    Theoren Fleury (Chicago Blackhawks)
    Paul Kariya (Anehaim Mighty Ducks)

    Joe Sakic (Colorado Avalanche)

    Teppo Numminen (Phoenix Coyotes)
    Chris Chelios (Detroit Red Wings)

    Patrick Roy (Colorado Avalanche)

    Eastern Conference

    Miroslav Satan (Buffalo Sabres)
    Jaromir Jarg (Washington Capitals)

    Saku Koivu (Montreal Canadiens)

    Alexei Zhitnik (Buffalo Sabres)
    Serghei Gonchar (Washington Capitals)

    Nikolai Khabibulin (Tampa Bay Lightnings)

    Am votat bine ?
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    asta o sa-l intereseze mai mult pe sickboy

    am fost aseara la meci (Köln - Augsburg 0-5) si am vazut o chestie relativ rara in hockey european: penalizare de 5 min.

    in ultimul minut a iesit o bataie la care a participat toata echipa.
    s-au dictat penalizari de 2+2 minute, un 2 min rouching +10 min game misconduct is un 5+10 minute game misconduct pentru Alex Hicks (fost LW Pittsburgh de lina 3-4 prin 96) pentru slashing causing an injury.

    sunt curios daca se lasa cu suspendari.

    de asemenea contrar cu NHL la coincidental minors se joaca 4-4 nu 5-5 can si in NHL.

    chiar daca meciul a avut o importanta relativ scazuta, plus nefiind in weekend, attendance a fost de 11037.

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    a few *if* from www.lcshockey.com

    - Is it just me, or does Pat Quinn's head get bigger every day? I heard a rumor he's going to be in the Thanksgiving Day parade next year...as a float.
    - Are you fools out there starting to finally come to the realization that Mario Lemieux is the greatest player of all time?
    - Am I allowed to verbally mock a guy in front of his girlfriend because he's wearing a "NEIDERMAYER 44" jersey to a Panther game? Yes folks, Niedermayer was spelled wrong.
    - Is it my moral obligation to call Social Services on any parent that lets his or her child wear the new Islanders third jersey?
    - John Buccigross is still a tool. Notice he hasn't had a column in a while, eh? I think people at ESPN read my column, possibly with folks from the NHL? Remember that this man predicted the Rangers to finish first in the Eastern Conference. Enough said.
    - Jarome Iginla, Patrick Roy, and Jose Theodore. I haven't seen a turnaround worse than this since my buddy Tim stopped playing Madden 2002 for two weeks and has yet to win another game since then (and we're talking since February folks).
    - I think when my college graduation is held at Office Depot Center (home of the Panthers) in May, the attendance there will surpass any game the 'Cats have had this year. If you listen close enough, you can actually hear Mike Keenan plotting his escape from Sunrise.
    - If the game of hockey was played in its entirety on the power play, the Pittsburgh Penguins would have a dynasty longer than the Ming's.
    - It was so nice for the refs to open up the game for those two months. Those were swell times. I can't wait to tell my grandkids about that golden period in hockey history.
    - If the following players score against your favorite team, there is no possibility of winning the game: Darius Kasparaitis, Peter Worrell, Ken Danekyo, Krzysztof Oliwa, Steve McKenna.
    - I think hockey players need to bring their hot girlfriends to games more often. I may be wrong, but the hottest hockey wives-girlfriends are Carol Alt (Alexei Yashin) and Kristi Yamaguchi (Bret Hedican). Please notify me about any other. Maybe we can start a list.
    - Remember when Wayne Gretzky played his last game against the Penguins and afterward he "passed the torch" to Jaromir Jagr? Or when Mario Lemieux "passed the torch" to Eric Lindros after his first retirement? Who would have thought the two greatest players in the NHL would have the worst foresight.
    - The coolest name in sports still has to be Edmonton Oiler 2002 draft pick Alex Semen. That's all folks!

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    GABRIEL-ai votat destul de bine(cu prea multi europeni pt. gustul meu),poate doar Zhitnik are un sezon mai slab,din cauza situatiei in care se afla Buffalo.Fleury si Kariya sint unii din jucatorii mai preferati

    GoPens-te invidiez 8) ,citi nord-americani joaca in Germania?
    Ce ti-am spus eu de audienta in meciurile cu "evenimente"!
    Din ce cauza s-a pornit bataia(lovire cu crosa)?
    "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out"

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    "mai slab,din cauza situatiei in care se afla Buffalo.Fleury si Kariya sint unii din jucatorii mai preferati."

    Taie-l pe Kariya si pune-l pe Kevin Stevens si avem "the drug wingers"

    "...citi nord-americani joaca in Germania?"

    prea multi. problema nu-i ca-s noradmericani, problema e ca-s nordamericani de mina a treia. fiind mai ieftini decit jucatorii autohtoni (care nici nu prea exista, la mine in oras e un club de hockey de amatori dar n-am reusit sa descopar cind joaca) echipele sunt compuse in proportie de 75% de jucatori straini, deci no local hockey development. cind stai sa te gindesti ca copii si juniorii in canada joaca si ei in jur de 80 de meciuri/sezon, sau ca orasul helsinki are 300 de patinoare artificiale...

    in legatura cu evenimentele, nu se stia dinainte ca iese cu bataie nu? on the other hand, attendance-ul a fost sub mediu pe sezon pentru KEC, mediu fiind 11900. la derby-uri se ajunge la 18000+.

    bataia a pornit in ultimul minut de joc, la scorul de 0-4 dupa un bodycheck legal, dupa parerea mea si a arbitrului, a unui jucator de la Augsburg Panthers la un forward de la KEC (a fost chiar Alex Hicks daca nu ma-nsel) care a ripostat lovind cu crosa. Call-ul corect ar fi fost de fapt high sticking, dar din cite stiu nu se pot da 5 minute pt. highsticking si se impuneau 5 min din cauza accidentarii.

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    sickboy , Fleury este si unul dintre preferatzii mei. Acum vreo 4 ani am vazut un interviu cu el. Este de stiut ca Fleury nu are dintzii din fatza (incisivii) pierdutzi in urma pucurilor pe care le-a luat in gura.
    Si il intreaba comentatorul : "Theo,dar ai atatia bani..de ce nu itzi pui dintzi in gura ? " ,iar Fleury i-a replicat : "Pai ce rost are sa imi pun dintzi ? ...ca tot o sa mi rup . O sa-mi pun dantura cand am sa termin cu hockey-ul."

    Da..am votat cu multzi europeni..pentru ca imi plac mie !

    Si cu un singur amrican..Cheelios,nu ?

    Da..Kariya e bun. Il stiu de pe vremea cand facea tandem la Mighty Ducks cu "Finish flash" ....Selane.
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    btw. daca tot ne-am apucat de Goon All-Star ...
    ce zici de linia asta:


    East (West nu ma prea pricep):

    Barnaby-K.Primeau-Oliwa
    Worrel-Laus

    Hnlicka

    Gabriel:
    Jagr e OK.
    Satan, well exista definitiv wingeri mai buni ca el in East.
    Koivu ok, dar nu ca starting line cind una din optiuni e Mario Lemieux
    Khabibulin perfect.

    West e OK, Theo Fleury e discutabil dar whatever

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    e asemenea contrar cu NHL la coincidental minors se joaca 4-4 nu 5-5 can si in NHL.
    Trivia: In anii '80 si in NHL se juca 4 on 4. Numai ca pentru Oilers, cu Gretzky, Kurri, Glen Anderson, Paul Coffey, The Moose, Kevin Lowe, Esa Tikkanen..., 4 on 4 era un fel de powerplay, datorita spatiilor de manevra mai mari. Asa ca provocau intentionat un "concidental minor" numai sa joace 4 on 4. Liga s-a sesizat si a introdus 5 on 5.

    Pentru cei care nu stiu, Coffey este (well...a fost pentru ca s-a retras) the second greatest defenceman of all time (vorba lui vacaroiu...parerea mea!). La fel cum Super Mario is the second gratest player of all time .

    Deseara: 7PM Mountain, Oilers at Avalanche. GO OILERS!!!!!

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    OilersFan: Thanx. n-am stiut.

    Neavind ceva mai bun de facut am alcatuit clasamentul NHL ordonat dupa bugetul alocat pentru salariile jucatoriilor (de la inceputul sezonului, datele luate de la www.faceoff.com )

    Sa vedem (toate valorile sunt in $ US):

    EAST


    NORTHEAST DIVISION

    TOR 51,361,600
    MTL 45,847,360
    BOS 35,125,000
    BUF 31,079,166
    OTT 30,315,000


    ATLANTIC DIVISION

    NYR 68,526,585
    PHI 54,645,333
    NJD 52,372,626
    NYI 40,990,935
    PIT 31,159,500


    SOUTHEAST DIVISION

    WHS 50,852,458
    CAR 38,433,787
    FLO 32,937,090
    TBL 28,858,439
    ATL 26,485,000

    Total EAST: 618,989,879



    WEST


    CENTRAL DIVISION

    DET 67,510,506
    STL 63,217,000
    CHI 44,425,000
    CMB 29,062,500
    NAS 25,642,000


    NORTHWEST DIVISION

    COL 60,470.926
    CGY 33,272,000
    VAN 32,590,000
    EDM 30,930,600
    MIN 21,441,250


    PACIFIC DIVISION

    DAL 61,685,169
    SJS 45,960,000
    PHO 43,391,775
    LAS 43,317,434
    ANA 39,004,500

    Total WEST: 641,920,660

    e amazing ce-au reusit echipe ca Edmonton, Tampa Bay si mai ales Minnesota setonul asta, dat fiind bugetele restrinse (MIN are 31% din bugetul lui NYR dar are 12 puncte in plus). credit it to good coaching and scouting.

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