NBA Draft 2005

[Raptor]

Cam slab anu asta. Bogut si Gerald Green sunt singurii la care pot sa ma gandesc. A, si asta http://nbadraft.net/jaberstory.asp (care nu e in draft yet) :D

[caseta]

anu asta nu stiu NIMIC despre aia care intra in draft. acum 2 ani stiam de lebron, carmelo, milicic, anu trecut cite ceva despre okafor si howard ....

ca un fapt interesant, acum 3 ani, inainte de draft citeam un articol in care unul dintre analistii de pe sportsillustrated.cnn.com zicea ca desi va fi draftat pe pozitia 9-10, amare stoudamire ar putea fi "the sleeper". cred ca nici cel care a zis asta nu se astepta ca amare sa fie rookie of the year, ci se gindea ca se va dovedi mai valoros decit se astepta lumea de la el peste mai multi ani .....
din pacate nu mai stiu cum il cheama pe respectivul, ca as cauta mai multe articole de'ale lui ca sa vad daca a mai nimerit si alte predictii. dar probabil ca daca a mai nimerit si altele, o fi acum scout pe la vreo echipa :P

[eddy_jozsa]

Interesant articolu despre iranianul ala... moaaaaama ce potential tre sa aiba ala dak acum 4 ani o inceput sa joace si acum bate la portile NBA-ului... cre k ma apuc si eu de baschet :drak:

"He has tremendous size and runs the floor something like Ghorge Mueresan. However, expect it to improve. " :D

Deci vreau sa-l vad jucand... dar slamurile lui vad ca is incredibil de seci... tot mai fain e un om cu inaltimea lu Earl Boykins cu degetele pe inel

[danrogojan]

hakim warrick de la syracuse.
pivot. combinatie intre shaq si garnett. incearca de fiecare data sa dea slam.
am vazut niste slamuri de pe loc, cu om pe el de te ingrozesti.

Mi-ar place sa mearga la Atlanta sau la GSW.

[MadSkillz]

Combinatie intre Shaq si Garnett? A coborat Mesia iarasi pe pamant?

[Kobe24]

ar fi bun pt lakers:P

[Raptor]

Da, Hakim e super tare (Marcus Camby-like), dar sa vedeti anu viitor ce se prezice (in materie de slammeri). :D

James White si Guillermo Diaz :D

[deko]

chiar baieti de James White se mai aude ceva?
nu stiu daca este destul de bun pentru NBA dar as vrea sa-l vad la un concurs da slam dunk sa le dea peste nas putin vedetelor.

[Raptor]

Pai... in 2006...

[Raptor]

http://www.draftcity.com/viewarticle.php?a=182 - nevoile echipelor gen NJ Nets, NY Knicks, Philly, Raptors, Celtics in actualul draft.

[MadSkillz]

hakim warrick de la syracuse.
pivot. combinatie intre shaq si garnett. incearca de fiecare data sa dea slam.
am vazut niste slamuri de pe loc, cu om pe el de te ingrozesti.


Acum 2 anihttp://web.syr.edu/%7Emjoconne/nuts2face.jpg

[Sheed]

Cel mai interesant lucru din draftul asta, in spatele jucatorilor mi se pare: ce decizie va lua GM de la Milwaukee in privinta primei alegeri.

Avind in vedere ca Michael Redd e free agent ar putea forta un sign and trade cu Redd pe linga care sa plaseze si prima alegere in draft pentru un prime time player ca Garnett sa zicem sau Kobe , cine stie...

E posibil dar putin probabil in opinia mea pt ca e o lege nescrisa si anume ca prima alegere nu se tradeaza niciodata dar sau mai vazut cazuri.

In conditiile in care Redd pleaca (desi nu prea are unde sa se duca pt ca toate echipele bune au depasit deja salary cap pentru anul viitor) s-ar putea bizui pe aceasta alegere in reconstructia ulterioara a echipei.

Daca Redd ramine cred ca or sa-l ia pe Bogut altfel , daca pleaca cred ca o sa prefere un negru de 6'6"-6'8" pt ca e mai putin riscant sa inceapa reconstructia echipei pe mina lui (vezi cazul Darko Millicic ca exemplu negativ pt un om mare si alb si tinar pe mina caruia nu se poate face echipa rapid(2-3 ani)).

[mishu]

io cred ca o sa-l ia pe bogut... au nevoie de un centru

[Raptor]

Bogut. Nici o indoiala.

[mishu]

The Bucks will begin working out draft prospects presumably this week. Among those invited will be Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Chris Paul, & possibly Deron Williams with Bogut presently being the frontrunner for the first overall selection. Bogut (7-0 245 Soph. Utah) is a highly-skilled big man who can provide some immediate help to any NBA team. Although not highly regarded among the best overall college talents going into his last collegiate season, Bogut had a strong sophomore season at Utah averaging 20.4 ppg and 12.2 rpg. He finished his season as arguably the best college player in the game as he was voted the Naismith Player of the Year and received the John Wooden Award. He also was selected as the Pete Newell Big Man of the Year and National Association of Basketball Coaches Division I Men's Player of the Year.

[Raptor]

Bogut e un fel de Tim Duncan, pastrand proportiile. Are soft hands, footwork, basketball IQ etc. In schimb, desi are mainile lungi, nu prea are shot-blockingu care trebuie si nu prea se descurca la Help Defense (deci nu s-ar integra bine la Detroit :D ).

[caseta]

ar putea forta un sign and trade cu Redd pe linga care sa plaseze si prima alegere in draft pentru un prime time player ca Garnett sa zicem sau Kobe , cine stie...
stiu eu ca nu se va face asa ceva. cine dreq l-ar da pe kg contra redd si un first pick ?? poate doar daca pick-ul ar fi cineva ca shaq, ca iverson, ca vince carter sau ca lebron. redd totusi, desi e bun, are medii de 23ppg, 4.2 reb si 2.3 ast. nu are nici macar 1 stl/game. deci nu exceleaza la defensiva. e un jucator mediu, in nici un caz unul de talia lui kg (22p, 14reb, 5ast). redd poate ar merge bine intr-o echipa cu inca un scorer si cu un defensive player si rebounder ca lumea. de ex la detroit cred ca ar merge bine in locul lui hamilton. sau la denver ca starting SG.

darko milicic poate ar fi aratat ceva daca i s-ar fi dat o sansa, dar brown l-a tinut pe banca pt ca ii are pe fratii wallace si pe dice ....

[thekobe]

bogut e mai degraba brad miller decat duncan

darko (http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/0504/19/D01-155163.htm)

[mishu]

The Sixers acquired the final pick in the second round of the NBA draft, No. 60, from the Utah Jazz in return for a future second-round pick. The Sixers immediately conveyed No. 60 to the Pistons as the final payment in the 1997 deal in which they acquired Theo Ratliff and Aaron McKie for Jerry Stackhouse and Eric Montross. This allows the Sixers to retain their own second-round choice, No. 45, their only pick in the two rounds. Their first-round pick went to Denver in the 2002 three-way deal with Houston in which they acquired Kenny Thomas from the Rockets, and has since bounced from there to New Jersey and now to Toronto. With that pick, the Raptors hold No. 16 as well as their own No. 7. The Jazz were holding five picks - two in the first round, three in the second.

marfa de afaceri fac sixers... si cum pana mea jazz au ajuns sa aiba 5 alegeri... oare cati o sa opreasca din astia 5?

[Florian GG]

Pe mine m-a impresionat felul in care a fost descris jocu' lui Gerald Green pe www.nbadraft.net Bobcats pick (al 5-lea) si in special faptu' ca e comparat cu T-Mac :o: :cool: . Si seamana putin cu el :D :D :) . Oricum nu e comparat degeaba cu McGrady stiu cei de la nbadraft.com ceva. Nu degeaba anu' trecut J-Smoove a fost comparat cu VC :)

[Raptor]

Cica Hakim Warrick e "Marcus Camby" :headbang:

[Raptor]

Gerald Green (sau noul McGrady... :ciocan: ):

High School Career Highlights: Two-time All-State selection at Gulf Shores Academy. Named MVP of the Reebok ABCD All-Star Camp in the summer of 2004.

2005 Postseason All-Star Games: Scored a game-high 24 points on 8-for-12 shooting, including 6-for-9 from behind the arc, in the McDonald’s High School All-America Game. Also won the McDonald’s Slam Dunk Contest. Scored 17 points in the 2005 Roundball Classic, making 4-of-7 three-pointers.

Senior (2004-05): Averaged 33.0 points, 12.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists.

Junior (2003-04): Averaged 28.8 points, 13.0 rebounds and 6.0 blocks, leading Gulf Shores to a 39-2 season.

Strengths: Tremendous athlete with great end-to-end speed and exceptional leaping ability. Has three-point range and the ability to beat people off the dribble.

[MadSkillz]

Milwaukee - Andrew Bogut 7-0 251 C
Atlanta - Marvin Williams 6-8 228 SF
Utah - Deron Williams 6-3 202 PG
New Orleans - Chris Paul 6-1 178 PG
Charlotte - Raymond Felton 6-1 200 PG
Portland - Martell Webster 6-7 230 SG/SF
Toronto - Charlie Villanueva 6-10 237 PF
New York - Channing Frye 6-11 244 C
Golden State - Ike Diogu 6-8 255 PF
LA Lakers - Andrew Bynum 7-0 280 C
Orlando - Fran Vasquez 6-10 230 PF Spania
LA Clippers - Yaroslav Corolev 6-9 220 SF Rusia
Charlotte - Sean May 6-8 220 PF
Minnesota - Rashad McCants 6-4 201 SG

Pe ceilalti ii vedeti voi maine, ca mi-e somn si nu mai am rabdare pana la pozitia 47 cand trage Minnesota iar. :mda:

[just2play]

Mai frate, am si io o intrebare.Muresan a participat la NBA draft nu? Cand a ajuns la Washington. Are cineva vreun filmuletz cu el? Eu nu l-am vazut niciodata jucand, dar am auzit ca mai mult mergea pe teren decat sa alerge, si c atunci cand se accidenta nu mai juca vreo 3 luni. Acum i-a batut recordul la inaltime Ming Ming ala.
Daca avetzi filmuletze cu Big Ghitza, va rog sa mi le dati si mie /hello

[Raptor]

Pai eu am, dar dreq stie pe unde sunt. De fapt, e o faza cand da slam peste (pe langa) Shawn Bradley... :D.

Si nu e chiar asa cum zici tu. Faza e ca nu era asa de lent prin '95, de fapt chiar a luat NBA Rookie Of The Year Award, prin 94 sau 95 (nu mai stiu), si eu zic ca e si asta o realizare, ca din toti jucatorii de NBA sa iei un asemenea award (bine ca de la 4-5 ppg la 12 sau cate o fi avut in anu ala si de la vreo 2 rpg la vreo 9 e intr-adevar o chestie) :D

[Sharkie]

Ia cauta tu filmuletzul ala........ :P

just2play,vezi ca nu ai voie decat cu un emoticon in semnatura.
Raptor,tu n-ai voie sa-ti pui link-uri in semnatura.

:D

[Raptor]

Pai cine a zis ca e link? Nu vezi ca nu e subliniat si ca nu poti da click pe el? :rolleyes:

[just2play]

Eu nu zic ca nu era bun Raptore! Din contra. La CM de tineret...prin 1994 parca...cu Sinevici, Alexe, Palai..ce mai Dream Team...Ghitza era foarte bun...facea legea sub panou. Pana la urma parca ne-am clasat pe locul 4 in lume, dupa ce o echipa a fost descalificata.
Totusi, acum este "mascota" Vrajitorilor. Face poze cu lumea, vorbeste cu suporterii si ia niste bani frumosi pe treaba asta. Aici fiecare intelege cum vrea. Eu cred ca a vrut sa fie mai aproape de echipa la care a jucat, si ca partea materiala nu l-a interesat foarte tare. Te rog cauta si tu filmuletzu ala.
PS Sharky, cum imi pun emotion?!!!

[just2play]

aaaa...am inteles Sharkie

[Sharkie]

4.1 Semnaturile nu au voie contina imagini si linkuri (si nici tentative de link gen w w w . o n l i n e s p o r t . r o), ci numai text. Este voie cu un singur “smile” per semnatura.

@just2play vezi ca e Sharkie ;) :D
Pai la tine e problema sa iti scoti un emoticon.Uite,pt tine si Raptor v-am dat un citat din regulamentul forumului :D

[just2play]

akum e bine...ma da filmuletze cu Duncan avetii vreunu?

[just2play]

ma aveti vreo poza mai klumea sa imi dati si mie. am luat cele mai mici imagini pe care le am si tot sunt prea mari..pls

[Sharkie]

Dap ! E bine....

Raptor e ala cu filmele :D

Nu mai posta consecutiv.......da-i edit cum am facut io in postul asta ;)
Ca sa iti pui avatar (imaginea de langa nume ) trebe sa te duci la User CP (Control Panel) si la Edit Avatar.

[eddy_jozsa]

zau? un singur smilie? :no:

[Sharkie]

Dap ! Asa ca shimbati-o mai repede,daca nu vrei sa te dau in gat :D

[eddy_jozsa]

fac rost de un autograf de la cel mai bun guard din liga daca nu ma dai in gat :D

in alta dezordine de idei... acum e reluarea draftului pe NBA+ Franta... apai e prea complicat sistemul asta, eu nu inteleg nimic, doar ca echipele slabe primesc jucatori mai buni ca sa nu mai fie atat de slabe.

Am vazut doar ca un jucator, Lee parca il cheama... a fost draftat de NY si l-o huiduit toata sala.

In rest... neinteresant

[Sharkie]

In cat timp poti sa-mi faci rost de autograf ?
Pe langa faptul ca nu te-as da in gat daca mi-ai face rost,ti-as fi si recunoscator !! ;)

Succes la BAC ! La romana ce-ai facut ?

[Kobe24]

Lakers park ziceau ca nu vor selecta un jucator venit direct din liceu...si totusi l-au luat p Bynum asta(cel mai tanar draftat vreodata). Nu o sa aiba prea multe minute jucate in primul sezon

[Florian GG]

Da clar Milwaukee l-au draftat pe Bogut viitorul Duncan sau Divac intr-adevar aveau nevoie de un "big man" insa nu prea inteleg al 2-lea pick al lui Atlanta...ma gandeam ca o sa aleaga un point ceva gen Deron Williams sau Chris Paul dar nu s-a intamplat asa...l-au ales pe F Marvin Williams desi il aveau pe Josh Smith ca starter pe postul de SF da' ma rog sa vedem ce-o sa se intample vara asta


Draft Board

ROUND 1


NO. TEAM SELECTION
1 Milwaukee Bucks Andrew Bogut, Utah
2 Atlanta Hawks Marvin Williams, North Carolina
3 Utah Jazz Deron Williams, Illinois
4 New Orleans Hornets Chris Paul, Wake Forest
5 Charlotte Bobcats Raymond Felton, North Carolina
6 Portland Trail Blazers Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS
7 Toronto Raptors Charlie Villanueva, Connecticut
8 New York Knicks Channing Frye, Arizona
9 Golden State Warriors Ike Diogu, Arizona State
10 LA Lakers Andrew Bynum, St. Joseph (NJ) HS
11 Orlando Magic Fran Vazquez, Spain
12 LA Clippers Yaroslav Korolev, CSKA Moscow
13 Charlotte Bobcats Sean May, North Carolina
14 Minnesota Timberwolves Rashad McCants, North Carolina
15 New Jersey Nets Antoine Wright, Texas A&M
16 Toronto Raptors Joey Graham, Oklahoma State
17 Indiana Pacers Danny Granger, New Mexico
18 Boston Celtics Gerald Green, Gulf Shores Acad (TX)
19 Memphis Grizzlies Hakim Warrick, Syracuse
20 Denver Nuggets Julius Hodge, North Carolina State
21 Phoenix Suns (to New York) Nate Robinson, Washington
22 Denver Nuggets (to Portland) Jarrett Jack, Georgia Tech
23 Sacramento Kings Francisco Garcia, Louisville
24 Houston Rockets Luther Head, Illinois
25 Seattle SuperSonics Johan Petro, France
26 Detroit Pistons Jason Maxiell, Cincinnati
27 Portland Trail Blazers (to Denver) Linas Kleiza, Missouri
28 San Antonio Spurs Ian Mahinmi, STB Le Havre (France)
29 Miami Heat Wayne Simien, Kansas
30 New York Knicks David Lee, Florida


ROUND 2


NO. TEAM SELECTION
31 Atlanta Hawks Salim Stoudamire, Arizona
32 LA Clippers Daniel Ewing, Duke
33 New Orleans Hornets Brandon Bass, LSU
34 Utah Jazz C.J. Miles, Skyline H.S. (Tex)
35 Portland Trail Blazers (to Denver) Ricky Sanchez, IMG Academy
36 Milwaukee Bucks Ersan Ilyasova, Ulker Istanbul
37 LA Lakers Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga
38 Orlando Magic Travis Diener, Marquette
39 LA Lakers Von Wafer, Florida State
40 Golden State Warriors Monta Ellis, Lanier H.S. (Miss.)
41 Toronto Raptors Roko Ujic, KK Split (Croatia)
42 Golden State Warriors Chris Taft, Pittsburgh
43 New Jersey Nets Mile Ilic, BC Reflex (Serbia & Montenegro)
44 Orlando Magic (to Cleveland) Martynas Andriuskevicius, Zalgiris (Lithuania)
45 Philadelphia 76ers Louis Williams, South Gwinnett HS (Ga.)
46 Indiana Pacers Erazem Lorbek, Climamio Bologna (Italy)
47 Minnesota Timberwolves Bracey Wright, Indiana
48 Seattle SuperSonics Mickael Gelabale, Real Madrid (Spain)
49 Washington Wizards Andray Blatche, South Kent Prep (Conn.)
50 Boston Celtics Ryan Gomes, Providence
51 Utah Jazz Robert Whaley, Walsh University
52 Denver Nuggets Axel Hervelle, Real Madrid (Spain)
53 Boston Celtics Orien Green, La.-Lafayette
54 New York Knicks (to Phoenix) Dijon Thompson, UCLA
55 Seattle SuperSonics (to Memphis) Lawrence Roberts, Mississippi State
56 Detroit Pistons Amir Johnson, Westchester H.S. (Calif.)
57 Phoenix Suns (to Orlando) Marcin Gortat, RheinEnergie Koln (Germany)
58 Toronto Raptors Uros Slokar, Snaidero Udine (Italy)
59 Atlanta Hawks Cenk Akyol, Efes Pilsen (Turkey)
60 Detroit Pistons Alex Acker, Eisenhower HS (Calif.)

si ceva trade-uri:

--Utah traded the Nos. 6 and 27 picks and a future first rounder to Portland in exchange for the No. 3 pick.

-- Milwaukee acquired Jiri Welsch from Cleveland for a second round pick in 2006.

-- Denver traded the rights to No. 22 Jarrett Jack to Portland for the rights to No. 27 Linas Kleiza and No. 35 Ricky Sanchez.

-- Seattle traded the rights to No. 55 Lawrence Roberts to Memphis for the Grizzlies’ own 2006 second-round pick, the Grizzlies’ own 2007 second-round pick and cash considerations.

-- Phoenix traded Quentin Richardson and the rights to No. 21 Nate Robinson to New York for Kurt Thomas and the rights to No. 54 Dijon Thompson.

-- Phoenix also traded the rights to No. 57 Marcin Gortat to Orlando for cash considerations

Charlotte pana la urma a ales un PG pe Felton interesant pick si viitorul McGrady lol :rolleyes: adik Gerald Green a fost a 18-a alegere (Boston l-a luat :headbang: ). O alta surpriza pt mine ar fi Monta Ellis care a fost ales in runda a 2-a desi era un posibil rookie de de top 20 al primei runde.

[Raptor]

Si Kobe a fost ales 13th... si... :rolleyes:

[mishu]

cateva consideratii pentru first round picks... ale specialistilor americani...
1. The Milwaukee Bucks take Andrew Bogut of the University of Utah...
Bogut was expected to be picked by the Bucks; I don't necessarily think that Bogut is going to be anything spectacular, he can definitely hold either the power forward or center positions down with ease. People might want Marvin Williams, but Desmond Mason is a more than capable swingman. Add the fact that Bogut genuinely wants to play for Milwaukee (a very small market), the Bucks should be a playoff team next season. (****)

2. The Atlanta Hawks take Marvin Williams from the University of North Carolina ...
Marvin Williams has been predicted to be a better player than Carmelo Anthony is, so keep your eyes open. The only thing that sucks is Atlanta has 4 swingmen, but you have to take the best player available. A great move! (****)
3. The Utah Jazz take Deron Williams of the University of Illinois ...
This is a Jerry Sloan pick. A hard working, great defensive player who has really gotten into shape in team workouts. He will remind many of Jason Kidd, but he needs to develop his passing a little bit more. Overall the best pick so far because its exactly what Utah needed a stable young defensive point (*****)
4. The New Orleans Hornets take Chris Paul from Wake Forest University ...
Read my lips: the next Isiah Thomas. Out of all these guys, Paul is ready to jump out of the gate and lead this Hornets team. He has star written all over him and he will bring some more Hornets fans back in to seats (*****)
5. The Charlotte Bobcats take Raymond Felton of the University of North Carolina ...
Wow what a reach for Felton. I like Felton but I think this is a little high for him. However the Bobcats are desperate for a Point Guard, so they picked on a need. At least he will sell some tickets (***)
6. The Portland Trail Blazers take Martell Webster of Seattle Prep (Wash.) ...
Out of the top two high school players (Green and Webster), Webster is the more sure bet. He has an NBA build at 6'7 and 235 and shoot the ball like a young Glen Rice. May not have the potential of Green, but he can step in and help a team. The only thing I am worried about with Portland is how three of their starters might be high schoolers (Telfair, Webster, and Outlaw). I can see the locker room fights going down now (****)
7. The Toronto Raptors take Charlie Villanueva from the University of Connecticut ...
What the heck?!! Babcock must not like his job, he must love going on long vacations because this is the weirdest pick ever. I think they needed a shooting guard. Araujo.... (*)
8. The New York Knicks take Channing Frye from the University of Arizona...
Yea we Knicks fans have waiting for a starting center since Ewing. The Post Ewing era begins. While he is definitely frail and I would have liked picking Danny Granger, I can live with Frye. (****)
9. The Golden State Warriors take Ike Diogu from Arizona State University ...
Wow this is another shocker! Most people pegged him to be a 20s pick. I like Ike, but this is a high for him. (**)
10. The Los Angeles Lakers take Andrew Bynum from St. Joseph's High School (N.J.)...
Bynum? I mean he's a good prospect, but they had Granger, Green, and Wright all available. They need immediate help with Phil on board, but maybe Phil can steer him away from being another Jerome James ... Green is slipping like a bar of soap in prison (***)
11. The Orlando Magic take Fran Vazquez from Spain...
Huh? There is so many shockers after the 7th pick. Vasquez from what I've heard can contribute immediately. I heard he's similar to Pau Gasol, but needs work on D(****).
12. The Los Angeles Clippers take Yaroslav Korolev from Russia ...
Yaroslav Korolev isn't a surprise for Basketball Junkies, because the Clippers have guaranteed him a spot. I don't really know anything about him. I've heard comparisons to Peja. Very risky (***).
13. The Charlotte Bobcats take Sean May of the University of North Carolina ...
The money is going to pouring into the stadium as half of UNC's championship is on the Bobcats. (*****)
14. The Minnesota Timberwolves take Rashad McCants from the University of North Carolina ...
What are the GMs smoking these days?! You replace one head case (Sprewell) with another head case (McCants). I think he's a poor man's version of D'Wade. Needs to work on rebounding and defense. (***)
15. The New Jersey Nets take Antoine Wright from Texas A & M ...
Hmmm not a bad move, but definitely not what the Nets needed. In a draft where Chris Taft, Warrick, the Nets should have picked a power forward. Wright will have to fight for some time with Carter and Jefferson being there. (***)
16. The Toronto Raptors take Joey Graham from Oklahoma State University ...
Joey Graham ... as Canadian's say ... eh? I mean I know Graham is going to be good, Granger and Green are much better long term prospects. I know that he'll definitely help (****)
17. The Indiana Pacers take Danny Granger from the University of New Mexico ...
Granger is a steal!!! He will be an amazing asset for the Pacers. Can you say the Pacers are contenders this year? They are as deep as any team in the league. Watch out Spurs. (*****)
18. The Boston Celtics take Gerald Green from Gulf Shores Academy (Tex.) ...
The only thing is the Celtics have 6 guys at the 2 guard now. What do they do? (****)
19. The Memphis Grizzlies take Hakim Warrick from Syracuse University ...
A good move by Memphis. Stromile Swift is leaving Memphis, and they need someone who can contribute what Swift brought for them. A great move for the Grizz's bench (*****)
20. The Denver Nuggets take Julius Hodge from North Carolina State University ...
Wow this is a reach! Hodge can definitely ball, but just a week ago people were saying he might be a second rounder. At least he can be penetrate and handle which the Nuggets need. (***)
21. The Phoenix Suns take Nate Robinson from the University of Washington ...
WOW!!!!! Nate Robinson?!! I think he is definitely next coming of Earl Boykins but a little bit stronger. I am glad that the league execs saw past height issues and gave this kid a chance. Where's Barbosa at? (*****)
22. The Denver Nuggets take Jarrett Jack from Georgia Tech ... TRADED TO PORTLAND
Jarrett Jack? I don't like this pick at all. Maybe Kiki is afraid of Euros since Skita but the Nuggets are loaded at the 1. He should have picked Petro or Martynas. (*)
23. The Sacramento Kings take Francisco Garcia from the University of Louisville ...
Francisco Garcia = great move by Sac-Town. I think that he will be a starter for this team with Mobley possibly leaving (maybe for Denver?). He's a poor man's Rip Hamilton with a better 3 point shot and less speed. (****)
24. The Houston Rockets take Luther Head of the University of Illinois ...
Luther Head? I don't know what position he is more? Is he a two guard or a point? I think that the Rockets should have taken a chance with Taft but at least the Rockets will have more speed at the point. (**)
25. The Seattle SuperSonics take Johan Petro from France ...
Ok this doesn't make sense. I like Johan Petro don't get me wrong, but Martynas Andriuskevicius is the better prospect. We all know where Martynas is going..... (***)
26. The Detroit Pistons take Jason Maxiell from the University of Cincinnati ...
Ok Dumars, either you know something we don't, or you've been chilling with Rasheed Wallace a little too much. Also what happened to Darko, is he ever going to play? (*)
27. The Portland Trail Blazers take Linas Kleiza from the University of Missouri ... TRADED TO DENVER
Even if Portland trades this pick to Denver, where does he fit? I don't know why Martynas and Taft aren't picked yet?(**)
28. The San Antonio Spurs take Ian Mahinmi from France ...
Once again, the Spurs pick a guy that we've never heard of. Wait 4 years from now, when he's an All Star and we wonder why our teams didn't pick him! (***)
29. The Miami Heat take Wayne Simien from the University of Kansas ...
Wayne Simien is an amazing pick, I think one of my favorites of the draft. I think that if Haslem decides to leave, he can step right in and give the Heat a different more athletic feel. (*****)
30. The New York Knicks take David Lee from the University of Florida ...
Huh? David Lee? I don't know why the Knicks made this move. The Knicks have 5 power forwards. I just don't see how he'll contribute anything to the Knicks. Unless Isiah has something else in the works.(**)

[Jason Kidd]

Am vazut doar ca un jucator, Lee parca il cheama... a fost draftat de NY si l-o huiduit toata sala.
Lee era alb, iar sala era plina de negri.

Vorbind de Bogut, mie mi se pare ca seamana mai mult cu Divac, bun passeur, gura mare, calitati de lider. Ce are in plus, daca poti spun e asa, este o tehnica neobisnuita sub panou. Sint curios cum va juca.

[SilverZeus]

Da clar Milwaukee l-au draftat pe Bogut viitorul Duncan .

....yeah right !

[Gabriel]

o fi bun Deron Williams asta de la Utah ?

e hispanic ? ca asa se vede din poze. parca nu e negru.

[Raptor]

Deron Williams e un fel de Jason Kidd 2 cica... si nu ma refer la useru de pe forum... :headbang:

[mishu]

eu zic un pg este exact ce le trebuiau la utah... si mai mult ca sigur va fi starter in sezonul urmator...
special pentru gabriel ca stiu ca e fan utah... zvonurile zic ca jazz ar fi interesati de un schimb cu lakers la genul sa-l dea pe carlos boozer pentru butler, mihm, atkins si vre-un future pick... boozer e super bun dar gurile zic ca ak47 si-ar fi exprimat dorinta sa joace pf... cum okur poa sa joace si el pf... atunci s-ar putea descotorosi de boozer ca sa ia trei jucatori... care ar fi folositori... mihm ca back-up center, atkins ca back-up pg si butler ca starting sf...astfel un posibil starting pentru jazz la anul ar putea fi: deron williams, matt harping, caron butler, kirilenko, mehmet okur...

[Sheed]

parerea mea e ca ar fi oribil pt Utah sa aiba starting five-ul pe care l-ai pus mai sus.

De ce? In primul rind lack of size.In conditiile in care tendinta actuala este ca SF sa fie foarte inalt 6'8-6'9 ei il au pe butler la 6'7 + harpring la 6'6. Asta ca sa nu mai zic de Kirilenko care este prea mic si ar fi desfiintat de PF bune numai si numai din cauza "lack of size".

Apoi Kirilenko nu e asa bun ca straight defender, el e senzational ca help defender, un fel de ben alb, care insa nu poate juca centru.

O parte nasoala ar fi ca sunt pactic numai albi in starting five , fapt care dauneaza puternic la mobilitate(stiu , stiu , asta e politica clubului de rasisti nenorociti).

[just2play]

Corect Sheed! asta cu rasismul e chiar de condamnat...dar pana la urma e problema lor

White man CAN jump :ok: pana la urma...asta au vrut ei sa demonstreze

[Gabriel]

mishu...cred ca vor juca cu Kirilenko si Harpring extreme. cu turcu in centru. iar fundasi asta draftat al 3-lea si croatul. o formula excelenta :D

[Raptor]

http://www.nba.com/draft2005/blakestake_050630.html

[Gabriel]

maaaa....analistu ala zice ca Deron Williams e cel mai bun pg din colegii :D

luam titlu in cativa ani :ok:

[thekobe]

ala ar fi chris paul
e bun si deron, mai ales ca a mai dat jos de pe el
o sa fie un kidd+andre miller/2 daca se tine de treaba

[MadSkillz]

De unde fac si eu rost de un patch cu draftul 2005 pt NBA Live?

[Sharkie]

Probabil de pe DC++.In caz ca a aparut asa ceva.......

[thekobe]

De unde fac si eu rost de un patch cu draftul 2005 pt NBA Live?
http://www.nba-live.com/
al 2-lea titlu

[Raptor]

Da cica Nate Robinson dunking 10... jumping 75... mai degraba dunking 55 jumping 95...

[thekobe]

probabil o scapare
o sa modifice ce nu e bine in urmatoarele versiuni

[Adrian]

Bine v-am regasit!
Desi m-am mutat in Chicago. parca sufletul tot langa Pacers imi e...ia uite ce-au ales anul asta
"Though he is indeed pleased to have landed with the Pacers, Granger won't forget the helpless feeling of draft night, watching team after team call someone else's name. He said he'd circle the dates on the calendar when those teams face the Pacers. "
Cand te gandesti ca o sa joace langa Artest...

[thekobe]

mai bine le incercuieste pe celelalte, ca sunt mai putine

[uvictor]

Bynum eu zic ca e super tare. Lakers a facut o buna alegere ca divac e prea batran si nu a jucat aproape deloc in ultimul sezon si mai e chris mihm care nu e constant-plus ca nu are gabaritul lui bynum. Grant nu prea e pivot

[nr15]

bine ai revenit adrian !

[Raptor]

Bynum e ala gen Baby Shaq... adica Baby DeSagana Diop? :D

[uvictor]

Faza cu Bynum e ca ba are 280 ba are 300 pounds. pana la urma cat de masiv e?
Si chiar Baby Shaq, desi are 7-0

[Kobe24]

Bynum mai are multe de invatat...inca e la statutu de speranta. sa speram ca nu se va spune despre el peste 15ani ca "s-a nascut talent si a murit speranta".

[uvictor]

Asa in afara subiectului, Zen-master o fi venit pentru bani sau chiar crede ca poate ataca titlul!?Ca parerea mea este ca echipa ar avea, la PG sta lakers slabutz ca atkins nu prea e constant. In rest chiar ar avea ceva talent p-acolo...

[MadSkillz]

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/sp/062705nbadraft/im:/050709/483/

Aproape 200 de poze legate de draft.

[K-Dogg]

Pe McRoberts ala l-a draftat cineva?

[Kobe24]

"Tell him Shaq doesn't respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree," O'Neal said. "Tell him to get his degree and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I'm working on my PhD."
iata c spune shaq despre andrew bynum :rolleyes:

[MadSkillz]

Dar ce a spus Bynum?

[marinike]

There was other talk of the future from O'Neal, specifically about Andrew Bynum, the Lakers' first-round selection in last month's draft. Bynum, 17, invited a comparison to O'Neal on draft day, with one exception — he makes his free throws, he said. "Tell him Shaq doesn't respond to juvenile delinquents without a college degree," O'Neal said. "Tell him to get his degree and we can talk. In the meantime, he should call me Dr. Shaq because I'm working on my PhD."

dc l-a mancat limba pe pusti!
sunt curios sa-i vad in meciul direct :D

[thekobe]

bynum are de abia 17 ani, a terminat liceul cu 3.6 gpa (mare) si materia lui favorita e fizica

intre timp lui donut i-au trebuit vreo 10 ani sa-si ia diploma de la una bucata university of phoenix care e echivalentul a spiru sau saguna la noi, cursurile le-a facut prin corespondenta si examenele le-a dat la fel, ceea ce inseamna 99% ca le-a dat altcineva in locul lui. a, si i-au trebuit 2 saptamani sa-si fabrice raspunsul.

[Raptor]

Sa nu luam in serios tot ce zice Shaq. Shaq e un fel de Bob Sapp...

[C-O-S + min]

Da iranianul ala de 7'5 a fost draftat? Tin minte ca progresase extraordinar in cateva luni

[Raptor]

Nu prea cred... :D

[nr15]

7'5 ...pare destul de mult
cat inseamna ? 2,20 ?

[Raptor]

2.26.

[uvictor]

bynum are de abia 17 ani, a terminat liceul cu 3.6 gpa (mare) si materia lui favorita e fizica

intre timp lui donut i-au trebuit vreo 10 ani sa-si ia diploma de la una bucata university of phoenix care e echivalentul a spiru sau saguna la noi, cursurile le-a facut prin corespondenta si examenele le-a dat la fel, ceea ce inseamna 99% ca le-a dat altcineva in locul lui. a, si i-au trebuit 2 saptamani sa-si fabrice raspunsul.

Super tare, dar in meci direct Shaq inca e mai solid si viclean, degeaba Bynum le are cu 'free throws'...dar ai dreptate, Shaq a fost destul de dur in raspuns pentru un tip care s-a chinuit cu educatia

[Seahawk]

hohoho s'a chinuit.. dar oricum 3.6 in high`school nu e cine stie ce....e above average..dar its still jst highschool.... dar totusi considerand ca el e just a balla`..merge...
abia cand o sa termini cu 3.6 in college..atunci esti destept cu adevarat...
dar se pare ca asta se tine de carte.. oricum faza asta n'are nici o legatura cu faptul ca Shaq o sa'i dea lectii.. on the court

[Kobe24]

asta o vreme....ktiva ani...ca dupa aia shaq imbatraneste...andrew mai creste un pic.....si o sa se skimbe rolurile...asa cum kobe a luat lectii de la MJ pana in 98 si dupa aia in 2001-2003....a dat lectii:P

[MadSkillz]

Nu e normal sa nu faci fatza monstrilor (sacri) in primii ani? Chiar si eu (daca m-as baga in draft) ar trebui sa incasez de la Tim 1 an sau 2 ...

[uvictor]

Bine si daca tot vad ca am cativa laker-isti p-aici, mi se pare interesanta caracterizarea celui de-al 2-lea draftat de Lakers: Ronny Turiaf!

Ce ziceti baieti? Eu unul astept unele lucruri marete sezonul asta, mai ales dupa ce umilinta am incasat sezonul asta...
Bine ca sa nu mai zic ultima bomba: Kwame Brown(draftat nr.1 in 2001) la schimb cu Caron Butler+Devean George(sau Chucky Atkins)...ce naiba...nu merita, parerea mea, poate cu Atkins in locul lui George!

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/turiaf_sign_050714.html

[Kobe24]

Nu e normal sa nu faci fatza monstrilor (sacri) in primii ani? Chiar si eu (daca m-as baga in draft) ar trebui sa incasez de la Tim 1 an sau 2 ...
ba e mai mult decat normal...dar am raspuns la postul lui bibby. fiecare si-a primit "lectia" kiar si wilt cu cele 38ppg...in sezonul de debut

[Seahawk]

aha pai da normal.. dar primu an ..poate chiar si`n al doilea bynum o sa urmareasca seara inainte de culcare meciurile lui shaq sa invete..
ca bynum (poate) o sa'i dea el lectii lui shaq peste 3-4 ani .. (in caz ca nu se retrage big pan' atunci) ... eh asta'i alta treaba...
si despre Turiaf sa stiti ca e bun..chiar foarte bun...am fost la un meci de basket aici la college si juca echipa locala (washington huskies..cei care l'au bagat in draft pah nate robinson)... contra lui Gonzaga..echipa lui Turiaf..si chiar ma impresionat... o sa fie o surpriza.. va zic eu

[caseta]

kobe a luat lectii de la MJ pana in 98 si dupa aia in 2001-2003....a dat lectii:P
whoa, whoa .... laker boyz .... usor cu kobe pe scari. daca te referi la faptul ca in 2001-2003 kobe era peste nivelul lui jordan .... true. dar sa sustii ca i-a dat lectii ???? :headbang: :headbang:

a bit of trivia - in 2003 jordan avea 40 de ani, kobe 25. daca vrei sa faci o comparatie, uita-te la stats ale lui jordan cind avea 25 de ani ..... ;)

asa ca pina cind (daca) kobe va mai lua un inel, io zic sa renuntam la comparatiile dintre el si jordan .....

[thekobe]

caseta ai sarit ca ars. citeste mai bine posturile si o sa vezi la ce se referea mertin

turiaf + midrange jumper + mai atent cu faulturile = brian grant la portland

[uvictor]

Da...mi-ati raspuns cu turiaf dar ce ziceti de schimbul cu kwame brown?! Se preconizeaza si antonio daniels - pg la supersonics. si atunci echipa ar fi:
daniels, kobe, odom, kwame brown, chris mihm(sau bynum). Ohoho...inca un inel pt kobe...

[Raptor]

Sa nu exageram. Am mai vazut o echipa care ii avea pe:

Payton, Kobe, Rick Fox sau Devean George, Malone si Shaq... si n-am vazut nici un inel...

[thekobe]

tradeul cu kwame e ok avand in vedere ca boozer si magloire au cazut si nu erau alte variante mai bune. caron oricum trebuia sa joace backup sf sezonul asta, ceea ce nu prea ii convenea, iar la anul o sa primeasca multi $$$ cu cel putin 4 ani, iar lakers nu vor sa dea contracte care expira mai tarziu de 2007 (eventual un team option pentru 2007-2008) pentru ca au pus ochii pe cineva "special" (nici amare, nici yao). kwame zice ca e pregatit pentru un nou inceput, sa vedem. oricum o sa mai fie trade(uri) pana incepe sezonul. posibil ratliff, bender (inca il mai vor), piatkowski... mai multi

[caseta]

@thekobe - stiu la ce s-a referit.

@uvictor - dupa cum zice si raptor: yeah, right.
1. a. daniels nu e PG clasic, mai mult combo guard, ca terry la dallas.
2. mihm ca pivot e slabut rau ...
3. dupa juma de an cu kwame, o sa isi dea pumni in cap buss ca l-a adus. e talentat, dar am inteles ca nu are determinarea necesara pt a deveni un jucator cu adevarat bun. cine stie ... poate il va motiva phil jackson ... dar ....

@kobe (part #2) - sa fie lebron ala ? sa nu imi zici ca e vorba de wade .... ca nu cred. dupa an (2007) pare a face parte din aceeasi rookie class cu lebron si wade. sau e vreun veteran ?

[uvictor]

Sa nu exageram. Am mai vazut o echipa care ii avea pe:

Payton, Kobe, Rick Fox sau Devean George, Malone si Shaq... si n-am vazut nici un inel...
Rick fox...nu serios acum!
Malone mosh
Payton mosh
Devean George am din ce in ce mai mult sentimentul ca e un Radu Niculescu clasic-nascut talent murit speranta

[uvictor]

iar lakers nu vor sa dea contracte care expira mai tarziu de 2007 (eventual un team option pentru 2007-2008) pentru ca au pus ochii pe cineva "special" (nici amare, nici yao).multi
Ce vrei sa zici prin cineva"special"?

[Kobe24]

whoa, whoa .... laker boyz .... usor cu kobe pe scari. daca te referi la faptul ca in 2001-2003 kobe era peste nivelul lui jordan .... true. dar sa sustii ca i-a dat lectii ???? :headbang: :headbang:

a bit of trivia - in 2003 jordan avea 40 de ani, kobe 25. daca vrei sa faci o comparatie, uita-te la stats ale lui jordan cind avea 25 de ani ..... ;)

asa ca pina cind (daca) kobe va mai lua un inel, io zic sa renuntam la comparatiile dintre el si jordan .....
caseta nu t supara asa.....totul a pornit de la discutia dintre bynum si shaq....
eu am pus si niste ghilimele pe undeva.....la cuv "lectia" ...si dupa cum ziceai...kobe a fost peste jordan in PERIOADA RESPECTIVA...bineinteles ca jordan nu prea avea ce invata de la kobe(doar asta era ideea kobe avea 30ppg(2003) jordan 20....kobe castiga titlul(2002)...jordan nu prindea playoff-ul)....doar atat: kobe era PESTE JORDAN asa cum jordan a fost PESTE KOBE(mai mult dkt a fost kobe peste jordan..normal)....a fost o inversare de roluri. Asa cum poate se va intampla cu bynum si shaq....acuma o sa fie andrew capacit....de n-o sa stie cum il keama...iar peste 4-5ani(shaq nu se retrage...va fi in cautarea primului titlu la miami:P)la 38 de ani...va primi de la bynum 25 de puncte si 5 capace(DOAR o ipoteza....).
Si inca ceva caseta...poate nu crezi...dar eu sunt un mare fan a lui MJ...este motivul pt care m-am apucat de baschet...si motivul pt care sunt fan kobe acuma(si in perioada aceea 2001-2003...eram mai mult interesat de MJ dkt de kobe;) )

[uvictor]

...iar peste 4-5ani(shaq nu se retrage...va fi in cautarea primului titlu la miami:P)la 38 de ani...
:yeah: suntem pe aceeasi frecventa

[caseta]

nu ma supar .... :D
in contextul respectiv, am si zis .. sunt de acord.
dar nu ca "ii da lectii". in general veteranii sunt cei care dau lectii, chiar daca dpdv fizic nu mai pot face ce puteau in tinerete ....

nu am de ce sa nu cred ca ai fost (sau inca esti) fan jordan. mi se pare normal :P

cit despre shaq cautind in 2050 primul titlu la miami ... doar daca se cara wade de acolo ... ;)

[uvictor]

cit despre shaq cautind in 2050 primul titlu la miami ... doar daca se cara wade de acolo ... ;)
Se cara...la Lakers :D

[Kobe24]

@caseta
pot sa ia si veteranii "lectii" din cand in cand...nu le strica...asta tine de orgoliul lor ..ideea de a nu fi facut de rusine de unu mai tanar....sau de a fi inferior unui "pusti".
un ex de meci in care jordan a FOST MULT INFERIOR lui Kobe este All-Starul din 2002...knd Jordan a dat 8 puncte iar kobe MVP cu 31 de puncte. in meciul ala putem spune ca MJ a "luat lectii"(nu ca ar fi avut de invatat de la el...doar ca a fost MULT INFERIOR)

[Raptor]

Nu putem face asemenea comparatii... Kobe era doritor sa inscrie, sa se afirme etc. Jordan le facuse deja, si nu mai avea aceeasi dorinta. El era bucuros ca participa la All Star, ca joaca cu cei mai buni jucatori, poate vroia sa puna in valoare ceilalti jucatori etc dar in mod sigur nu avea aceeasi "competitive drive", si nici nu prea mai avea motive sa aibe asa ceva. Deci sa nu facem comparatii doar de dragu de a le face. Jordan nu a primit lectii.

[uvictor]

@Raptor - ai dreptate nu a primit lectii, dar eu as zice ca si Kobe a realizat destul de mult pana la varsta asta si daca nu plecau Shaq&Zen il depasea pe MJ la titluri NBA. Totusi nu este timpul pierdut! Ca si statistici MJ il domina pe KB dar eu, poate datorita varstei-fiindca nu l-am prins LIVE pe MJ in actiune cand era el 'on the peak', ador stilul, tehnica, energia cu care joaca Kobe si nu vad alt jucator acum, chiar daca publicitatea ii propune cativa candidati, care sa se ridice sau sa se apropie macar de nivelul lui Jordan

[Raptor]

LeBron, Wade din Nuova Guardia si T-Mac, Kobe din "Old-School". Chiar si Vince, in zilele lui bune (perioada 1999-2002).

Bine, acuma fiecare are individualitatile lui si diferentele dintre ei si Jordan sunt clare, dar nu stiu de ce trebuie sa rezumam mereu fiecare jucator la KP Jordan (eterna poveste). DPV statistic, jucatorii de mai sus se apropie de statistica lui Jordan, in rest, fiecare cu ale lui.

[uvictor]

LeBron, Wade din Nuova Guardia si T-Mac, Kobe din "Old-School". Chiar si Vince, in zilele lui bune (perioada 1999-2002).

Bine, acuma fiecare are individualitatile lui si diferentele dintre ei si Jordan sunt clare, dar nu stiu de ce trebuie sa rezumam mereu fiecare jucator la KP Jordan (eterna poveste). DPV statistic, jucatorii de mai sus se apropie de statistica lui Jordan, in rest, fiecare cu ale lui.
Mda uitasem ca Wade e d-abia la al 2-lea sezon, LeBron mi se pare 'umflat'. T-Mac hmmm, fiecare cu preferintele lui.
off-topic, o'neal a avut doar un an de contract cu miami?

[caseta]

nope. din cite stiu eu - o'neal a avut contract pe 7 ani cu lakers semnat in 1996, iar in 2000 in toamna a semnat o extensie de 3 ani si 88.5 mil. care extensie evident intra in vigoare la sfirsitul contractului aflat in derulare. shaq a jucat in 2004-2005 al 2-lea an al extensiei si are o optiune pt al 3-lea, caz in care ar lua peste 30 mil sezonul viitor.

atunci cind un jucator e dat intr-un trade, noua echipa preia contractul existent, nu semneaza altul. adica nu e ca la fotbal ;)

oricum, tu ca fan lakers, ar fi trebuit sa stii mai multe decit mine despre echipa ta favorita, nu ???? :P si sa nu zici ca nu stii pt ca shaq e la miami, ca a semnat contractul cind era la lakers .... :D

[uvictor]

oricum, tu ca fan lakers, ar fi trebuit sa stii mai multe decit mine despre echipa ta favorita, nu ???? :P si sa nu zici ca nu stii pt ca shaq e la miami, ca a semnat contractul cind era la lakers .... :D
Ofof ma obosesti :) Te iei de toti fanii lakers si chiar nu ai motive cand Bulls (echipa ta favorita?!) are o super echipa tanara si talentata: Hinrich, Luol Deng, Gordon, Eddy Curry si Chandler...
:o: Sau in calitate de fan lakers nu ar fi trebuit sa stiu decat numai despre echipa mea favorita ?!
Stiam ca e in discutii acum cu Miami pentru prelungirea contractului si ma miram ca tocmai se transferase la ei. Cat despre regulile cu contract 'mostenit' chiar nu stiam.

[caseta]

e o intimplare ca m-am luat de fanii lakers ... in general ma iau de toata lumea ... fara discriminari .... :drak:

in plus, chiar daca sunt rautacios, ti-am raspuns la intrebare. daca asta te plictiseste ... ce pot sa mai zic ?! :mda: nu mai pune intrebari si cauta pe google ;)

acum serios .... nu m-am mai luat pe bune de cineva de multa vreme pe forum .... daca te mai corectez si mai bag un mijto acolo ... nu tre sa o iei personal .... :D

cit despre chicago .... sa vedem ce se va intimpla. curry a avut probleme cu inima, si e slab la rebounds fata de cit e de mare, iar chandler nu e prea valabil dpdv ofensiv. niciunul nu merita max, curry fo 9 mil pe an, iar chandler fo 8. dar din pacate sunt echipe precum atlanta, care nu au mai vazut playoff-ul de atita vreme ca nici nu mai stiu cite meciuri sunt intr=o serie, si echipele astea au bani de aruncat pe free agents.

nu provoaca decit inflatie, ajung sa fie jucatori overpaid, si ca urmare cei care sunt cu adevarat buni, vor si ei mai multi bani ... bla bla. si ajung joe johnson si eddy curry cu contracte max-out, desi nu le merita. sunt jucatori buni, dar nu de contracte maxime.

[uvictor]

cit despre chicago .... sa vedem ce se va intimpla. curry a avut probleme cu inima, si e slab la rebounds fata de cit e de mare, iar chandler nu e prea valabil dpdv ofensiv. niciunul nu merita max, curry fo 9 mil pe an, iar chandler fo 8.
De restul de pe lista mea nu ai zis nimic :cool: , cel putin Luol Deng :o: e beton!!!

[Seahawk]

cit despre chicago .... sa vedem ce se va intimpla. curry a avut probleme cu inima
noua gaselnita a americanilor... he smokes too much pot(sau mai bine zis he does drugs)... gata are "probleme cu inima"...

[caseta]

noua gaselnita a americanilor... he smokes too much pot(sau mai bine zis he does drugs)... gata are "probleme cu inima"...
nu stiam asta .... si nici nu m-as fi gindit ca din cauza erbii l-au plimbat atit prin spitale de era sa nu ii mai dea voie sa joace. in cazu asta chicago ar tre sa incerce un sign and trade cu un PF de la hawks. sau un SF, ca si asa au muuult prea multi.

luol deng e bun, dar .... inca nu e vreun super star. deocamdata sunt toti tineri si intr-adevar, potentialul e mare. dar sunt multi din astia si la ei care s-au nascut talente si au murit sperante ....

[uvictor]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2110951

[caseta]

hehehe
mi se pare mie sau bogut o sa inceapa sa se asemene din ce in ce mai mult cu luc longley (nu neaparat ca stil de joc, dar ca statistici si "realizari") ... nu de alta dar nu de mult zicea ca nu i se pare corect sa fie comparat cu longley, ca el e mai bun, mai rapid, mai atletic si mai bla bla bla. stephon marbury al australiei .... :no:

pina una alta longley are 3 inele ... chit ca alea tot lu jordan ii apartin.

[Raptor]

Bogut a fost eliminat dintr-un meci de summer league pentru ca a lovit cu pumnu un centru advers.

[uvictor]

@raptor - asta vroiam sa zic prin link-ul postat de mine
@caseta - now that's a bulls maniac :)

[SilverZeus]

........nu de mult zicea ca nu i se pare corect sa fie comparat cu longley, ca el e mai bun, mai rapid, mai atletic si mai bla bla bla. stephon marbury al australiei .... :no:
.

......o sa-si inghita cuvintele cand va avea de lucru cu Amare, BigBen sau Emeka....iar cand vor aparea in fata sa Garnett, Duncan sau Shaq, o sa vrea cu siguranta la mamica lui....deocamdata e SummerLeague si asa isi arata muschii...nah, oricum e genul de jucator pe care -l urasc cel mai mult: increzut, malac si papagal ( :D )


si ajung joe johnson si eddy curry cu contracte max-out, desi nu le merita. sunt jucatori buni, dar nu de contracte maxime.

....foarte de acord


din cite stiu eu - o'neal a avut contract pe 7 ani cu lakers


...probabil Shaq urma sa fie in ultimul an de contract cu Lakers, ceea ce a grabit trade-ul lui la Heat (plus cunoscutele neintelegeri cu anumiti jucatori de la Lakers)....deci ma gandesc eu ca Heat a preluat contractul lui Shaq de la Lakers si l-au dus la bun sfarsit...iar ptr inca un an Shaq ramane la Heat datorita "Player Option"-ului si va ajunge la un salariu de aprox 30 mil dollars.....

[uvictor]

Hai ca asta m-a lasat masca :(
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2113689

[Raptor]

... asta e ... I wish him best of luck ...

[CinstitCuPanoul]

http://www.gsp.ro/index.php?a=19387&shift=1

[Seahawk]

Articolul solicitat nu exista in baza de date. :rolleyes: :(

[MadSkillz]

Este vorba de Ian Mahinmi ?

[marinike]

intr-adevar este vb despre Ian Mahinmi.
ia vedeti, link-ul asta merge?
http://gsp.ro/index.php?a=19415&ss=all%7Call%7C01-01-2004%7C26-07-2005%7C0%7C1%7CIan%7CMahinmi&p=2

[uvictor]

intr-adevar este vb despre Ian Mahinmi.
ia vedeti, link-ul asta merge?
http://gsp.ro/index.php?a=19415&ss=all%7Call%7C01-01-2004%7C26-07-2005%7C0%7C1%7CIan%7CMahinmi&p=2
Asa si...e promitator? :D

[marinike]

chiar dc nba e visul tuturor baschetbalistilot se pare ca unii dintre ei, cand sunt pusi in fata faptului implinit , fug:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/magic/2005-07-28-vazquez-spain_x.htm?csp=34

[caseta]

ala chiar e llama.
ce idiot .... :headbang:

[uvictor]

Poate ca ii ofera Real Madrid mai multi bani :D

[C-O-S + min]

Eu am asa o presimtire ca la toamna il vom vedea totusi in NBA! :ok:

[uvictor]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2123048

Se pare ca Turiaf e ok. Eu chiar am incredere in tipul asta ca va fi un pf 'beton'.

[Adrian]

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1358203&segment=147804

Retrospectiva sezonului lui Danny Granger de la Indiana Pacers

[thekobe]

MPG PPG FG% FT% RPG APG BPG SPG TO
30.6 10.4 46% 54% 7.5 1.3 1.6 0.8 2.6

si am gasit pana la urma si scouting report-ul facut de cineva dupa spl

Name: Andrew Bynum

Player comparison: Kelvin Cato/Brendan Haywood.
Upside: More athletic Jamaal Magloire. Pre-injury Erick Dampier.

Size:
1. Height – 7'1/4"
2. Wingspan – 7'6"
3. Weight - 270
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Good lateral movement for his size. Players like Kelvin Cato are quicker, but, he's just lazy.
2. Initial quickness - Average quickness. Not one to blow by players one on one.
3. Top speed – Average. Willing to run the floor.
4. Vertical leap – Above average. Doesn't show full vert. when he wants. Full vert. was shown on a few rebounds and blocked shots.
5. Reflexes – Good. Not stellar. Not the first to the ball. Getting by on physical characteristics. Namely wingspan.
6. Strength – Below average in the sense that his legs and explosiveness aren't prevalent for such an athlete. Not Amare Stoudemire/Shaquille O'Neal explosive. A bit mechanical.
7. Conditioning – Does get winded after 15-20 minutes of hard play. 3rd straight game in a row took all the gas out of his system.
8. Footwork – Average. Doesn't do anything fancy. Does utilize the drop step. Needs to work on an inside game along with a face up game. Jumphook. Dropstep. Face up.
9. Balance – Average. Can get knocked off the block. Doesn't use leverage well. Doesn't fall a lot either, despite all the contact he faces.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – N/A
• Post play – Methodical post player. Willing passer who's good at decision-making. Could be more precise. Needs go to moves. Utlizes the pivot foot well to create shot opportunities. Aggressive backing down and going towards the basket. Good extension and elevation on a jumphook. Doesn't have any countermoves. Doesn't re-post well. Hasn't shown the ability to steal position in the paint going from strongside to weakside.
• Off-the-ball – A bit lost at times. A bit indecisive. Doesn't box-out well.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Soft touch in the paint. Should be a high percentage FG shooter. Good shots within 6' usually drop.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Midrange shot needs a lot of work. Needs to add a foot of arc on his shot on anything past 12'. Slight hitch. Inconsistent Mechanics.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Below average. Smaller players with fundamental post games (not even diverse) have scored well against him. Simien on a jumphook. Undrafted Scott Merritt for jumphooks 3 consecutive times.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Very good. Shows well in pick and roll situations and is improving his timing. A bit late on rotation but contests jumpshots, even behind screens. Gets lucky to even block some of those jumpshots.
Anticipation – Solid.
• Team defense
Position - Solid. Not often late on rotation, but doesn't establish defensive position well.
Anticipation – N/A

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – Below Average. Doesn't actively box-out his man or any man consistently. Doesn't utilize footwork properly for position.
• Hustle – Good. Wins on the boards due to wingspan.
• Energy level – Decent.
• Position – Often finds himself boxed out or surrounded by 2 men. Steals boards on wingspan.
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Doesn’t box out. Showing improvement game by game.
• Hustle – Average. Shows more energy for offensive boards.
• Energy level –Average.
• Position – Wins the boards on wingspan and rooting guys out of the paint. Better defensive rebounder than offensive rebounder. Slight nose for the ball.

Intangibles
• Leadership – N/A
• Attitude – Good attitude. High effort all over the floor. Learning on the fly with improvement every game.
• Work Ethic – Lost weight since the HS All-Star game and it shows. I'd love to see him start a Karl Malone weight regiment.
• Competitiveness – Quiet demeanor, but never stops trying.
• Unselfishness – Good. Sometimes takes bad shots. Gets caught up in the crowd wanting him to do well in the post. Becoming more unselfish every game.
• Toughness – Good competitor. Just gets a bit winded and outmuscled in the paint at times.
• Mental – N/A
• Physical – Good frame. Could lock him up in a gym and make a granite rock out of him. If he was more chiseled, the man-defense, offensive positioning, and boxing out would all improve.

Summary: I'm not expecting a 25ppg 12rpg player unless he shows the work ethic to get himself a chiseled physique. I'm thinking more along the lines of a 14ppg 11rpg 2bpg player. Solid on both ends of the floor. Shows improvement every game. Shotblocking. Passing in the post. Decision-making within the triangle. Has a lot to learn: Dropstep, jumphook, face up game, arc in his midrange shot, FT consistency, box-out, solid man-defense, maintaining deep position when going from strongside to weakside or how to open up the passing angle, needs leg strength to steal position away from players, etc. An obvious project who is 3-4 years down the road, but definitely one worth waiting for. If he turns out to be a more athletic, better sized Magloire with the 14ppg 11rpg 2bpg relative upside, the Lakers have an absolute steal.

[Jason Kidd]

Multam theKobe.

Cool report.
Doar numarul de la pantof lipseste...

[uvictor]

Wow, impresionant...Sunt cifre bunicele...

[MadSkillz]

Andray Blatche got shot.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1127723901180360.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

[Irimus]

Ce ghinion tre sa ai sa fii impuscat inainte sa apuci sa debutezi in nba.Chiar mi-a starnit mila articolul.

[uvictor]

Intrucat vad ca acest thread nu a mai fost activ de ceva vreme:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2181173
Doamne ajuta!