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Iulya
9th January 2009, 20:49
Lista de participante

1 Ani VARDANYAN ARM 1
2 Kerstin FRANK AUT 2
3 Emma HAGIEVA AZE 3
4 Julia SHEREMET BLR 4
5 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL 5
6 Sonia RADEVA BUL 6
7 Mirna LIBRIC CRO 7
8 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 8
9 Karina JOHNSON DEN 9
10 Elena GLEBOVA EST 10
11 Kiira KORPI FIN 11
12 Laura LEPISTÖ FIN 11
13 Susanna PÖYKIÖ FIN 11
14 Candice DIDIER FRA 12
15 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 13
16 Annette DYTRT GER 14
17 TBA LADY GBR 15
18 Jenna MCCORKELL GBR 15
19 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU GRE 16
20 Bianka PADAR HUN 17
21 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 17
22 Clara PETERS IRL 18
23 Jenna SKYEN ISR 19
24 Stefania BERTON ITA 20
25 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 20
26 Francesca RIO ITA 20
27 Zanna PUGACA LAT 21
28 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 22
29 Manouk GIJSMAN NED 23
30 Erle HARSTAD NOR 24
31 Roxana LUCA ROU 25 :cheer:
32 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 26
33 Alena LEONOVA RUS 26
34 Ivana REITMAYEROVA SVK 27
35 Teodora POSTIC SLO 28
36 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 29
37 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 30
38 Nicole GRAF SUI 31
39 Noemie SILBERER SUI 31
40 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 32
41 Irina MOVCHAN UKR 33

whisper
9th January 2009, 23:47
Cred ca va castiga Caro:P
Nu vad pe altcineva la nivel european sa o intreaca.

ricochet4
10th January 2009, 00:05
La fel. Chit ca nu ne place noua de ea, nu are cine sa o bata. Poate daca am naturaliza-o pe Mao Asada :D

Geografu
10th January 2009, 01:05
Caro, fara discutie va deveni stapana Europei ! :yes:

Tracoromana
10th January 2009, 02:06
Caro nu prea are concurenta.

irinaidu
10th January 2009, 04:02
si eu cred ca ar trebui sa o naturalizam pe mao :P

whisper
10th January 2009, 15:33
Pe Mao? Ar merge...dar mai bine pe Yu-Na :)

ricochet4
10th January 2009, 18:36
Merge si Yu-Na.

mikeyy
11th January 2009, 23:28
Tamar Katz din Israel s-a retras de la europene si a fost inlocuita de Jenna Skyen - campioana Israelului din acest sezon. Am actualizat si lista participantilor.

lady_k
13th January 2009, 09:29
Eu am zis s-o votez pe Kiira. Cine stie...:P

venera
14th January 2009, 12:40
Eu am zis s-o votez pe Kiira. Cine stie...:P

CArolina, pe langa ca are valoarea necesara unui titllu, il si merita, a muncit si in ultimii ani s-a tot invartit pe langa titlu, il merita si ii tin pumnii.

mikeyy
14th January 2009, 14:18
CArolina, pe langa ca are valoarea necesara unui titllu, il si merita, a muncit si in ultimii ani s-a tot invartit pe langa titlu, il merita si ii tin pumnii.

Cred ca te referi la mondiale, Venera. Ca la Europene a castigat utlimele 2 titluri: 2007 si 2008.

venera
14th January 2009, 15:02
Cred ca te referi la mondiale, Venera. Ca la Europene a castigat utlimele 2 titluri: 2007 si 2008.

DA, asa este MIkeyy, sorry, pe la Mondiale s-a invartit..le-am incurcat..

praf_de_stele
15th January 2009, 14:46
desi nu tin cu ea, caro va castiga...si zic eu, destul de lejer :P

corina_mee
19th January 2009, 01:01
Da...sigur va castiga Caro. Oricum proba fetelor nu cred ca va fi foarte interesanta. Spectacolul adevarat va veni la Mondiale.

ricochet4
19th January 2009, 07:51
Oare prinde Valentina un loc pe podium ?

rob_din
19th January 2009, 09:37
Cred ca va castiga Caro:P
Nu vad pe altcineva la nivel european sa o intreaca.

Mai ales cand esti ajutat de cine trebuie

irinaidu
19th January 2009, 10:20
alin, dar parca vale nu participa ca e accidentata. adica stiu ca nu a participat la nationale.

lady_k
19th January 2009, 11:42
Mai ales cand esti ajutat de cine trebuie

E cea mai buna din Europa, indiferent daca ne place sau nu. Nu prea are concurenta.

Iulya
21st January 2009, 18:26
Starting Order

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU GRE
2 Karly ROBERTSON GBR
3 Noemie SILBERER SUI
4 Zanna PUGACA LAT
5 Ani VARDANYAN ARM

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Emma HAGIEVA AZE
7 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU
8 Clara PETERS IRL
9 Jenna SYKEN ISR
10 Julia SHEREMET BLR

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Sonia RADEVA BUL
12 Manouk GIJSMAN NED
13 Kerstin FRANK AUT
14 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL
15 Katherine HADFORD HUN

Warm-Up Group 4
16 Teodora POSTIC SLO
17 Erle HARSTAD NOR
18 Karina JOHNSON DEN
19 Nicole GRAF SUI
20 Mirna LIBRIC CRO

Warm-Up Group 5
21 Francesca RIO ITA
22 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR
23 Nella SIMAOVA CZE
24 Annette DYTRT GER
25 Irina MOVCHAN UKR

Warm-Up Group 6
26 Roxana LUCA ROU
27 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE
28 Candice DIDIER FRA
29 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP
30 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS

Warm-Up Group 7
31 Alena LEONOVA RUS
32 Ivana REITMAYEROVA SVK
33 Laura LEPISTÖ FIN
34 Elena GLEBOVA EST
35 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO

Warm-Up Group 8
36 Jenna MCCORKELL GBR
37 Kiira KORPI FIN
38 Stefania BERTON ITA
39 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
40 Susanna PÖYKIÖ FIN
41 Carolina KOSTNER ITA

mikeyy
21st January 2009, 19:48
Ce pozitie de start extraordinara are Roxana....trebuie sa se claseze in primele 9 dupa ce termina programul ca sa fie sigura de calificarea pt lung.....mai sunt 15 patinatoare dupa ea.

ricochet4
22nd January 2009, 02:32
alin, dar parca vale nu participa ca e accidentata. adica stiu ca nu a participat la nationale.

Habar nu aveam. Saraca... :huhu:

miafangina
23rd January 2009, 00:30
Succes, Roxana!:cheer:

Iulya
23rd January 2009, 16:28
1 Irina MOVCHAN UKR 46.48 27.68 18.80 4.85 4.55 4.85 4.65 4.60 0.00 #25
2 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 46.26 27.10 19.16 5.00 4.45 4.85 4.75 4.90 0.00 #22
3 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 45.24 27.04 18.20 4.70 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.50 0.00 #23
4 Annette DYTRT GER 44.06 23.54 20.52 5.30 4.75 5.30 5.15 5.15 0.00 #24
5 Teodora POSTIC SLO 43.28 27.40 15.88 4.25 3.75 3.95 3.95 3.95 0.00 #16
6 Francesca RIO ITA 42.24 25.60 17.64 4.55 4.15 4.45 4.40 4.50 1.00 #21
7 Manouk GIJSMAN NED 40.72 25.80 14.92 4.00 3.50 3.70 3.70 3.75 0.00 #12
8 Karly ROBERTSON GBR 40.36 26.32 14.04 3.85 3.30 3.50 3.50 3.40 0.00 #2
9 Kerstin FRANK AUT 39.00 23.60 15.40 4.20 3.55 3.95 3.70 3.85 0.00 #13
10 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL 38.48 22.72 15.76 4.10 3.70 4.10 3.95 3.85 0.00 #14
11 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 37.24 19.04 19.20 4.95 4.65 4.90 4.70 4.80 1.00 #27
12 Nicole GRAF SUI 36.04 20.60 15.44 4.00 3.70 3.95 3.80 3.85 0.00 #19
13 Roxana LUCA ROU 35.40 18.80 16.60 4.30 3.95 4.25 4.05 4.20 0.00 #26
14 Noemie SILBERER SUI 35.18 19.98 15.20 3.95 3.55 3.85 3.80 3.85 0.00 #3
15 Erle HARSTAD NOR 34.66 20.94 14.72 3.90 3.50 3.75 3.70 3.55 1.00 #17
16 Emma HAGIEVA AZE 33.96 21.08 13.88 3.75 3.10 3.60 3.50 3.40 1.00 #6
17 Katherine HADFORD HUN 33.76 18.24 15.52 4.10 3.50 4.10 3.85 3.85 0.00 #15
18 Zanna PUGACA LAT 30.90 18.10 12.80 3.40 3.10 3.30 3.15 3.05 0.00 #4
19 Sonia RADEVA BUL 30.64 16.80 14.84 3.85 3.50 3.75 3.75 3.70 1.00 #11
20 Mirna LIBRIC CRO 27.96 14.96 14.00 3.65 3.30 3.45 3.55 3.55 1.00 #20
21 Karina JOHNSON DEN 27.54 15.50 14.04 3.65 3.35 3.50 3.60 3.45 2.00 #18
22 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 27.22 14.18 14.04 3.55 3.35 3.60 3.50 3.55 1.00 #7
23 Julia SHEREMET BLR 26.56 12.40 14.16 4.00 3.30 3.60 3.40 3.40 0.00 #10
24 Clara PETERS IRL 25.82 13.82 12.00 3.00 2.65 3.10 3.20 3.05 0.00 #8
25 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU GRE 25.28 13.68 12.60 3.35 2.90 3.20 3.15 3.15 1.00 #1
26 Ani VARDANYAN ARM 18.62 8.34 10.28 2.75 2.40 2.60 2.65 2.45 0.00 #5

Clasamentul temporar ....mai sunt inca 15 fete

Tracoromana
23rd January 2009, 16:46
inseamna ca Roxana nu intra in primele 24.:(

Iulya
23rd January 2009, 16:47
1 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 48.62 27.70 20.92 5.30 5.00 5.40 5.15 5.30 0.00 #30
2 Irina MOVCHAN UKR 46.48 27.68 18.80 4.85 4.55 4.85 4.65 4.60 0.00 #25
3 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 46.26 27.10 19.16 5.00 4.45 4.85 4.75 4.90 0.00 #22
4 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 45.24 27.04 18.20 4.70 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.50 0.00 #23
5 Annette DYTRT GER 44.06 23.54 20.52 5.30 4.75 5.30 5.15 5.15 0.00 #24
6 Teodora POSTIC SLO 43.28 27.40 15.88 4.25 3.75 3.95 3.95 3.95 0.00 #16
7 Candice DIDIER FRA 42.84 23.80 19.04 4.95 4.55 4.95 4.70 4.65 0.00 #28
8 Francesca RIO ITA 42.24 25.60 17.64 4.55 4.15 4.45 4.40 4.50 1.00 #21
9 Manouk GIJSMAN NED 40.72 25.80 14.92 4.00 3.50 3.70 3.70 3.75 0.00 #12
10 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 40.44 22.04 18.40 4.75 4.40 4.70 4.55 4.60 0.00 #29
11 Karly ROBERTSON GBR 40.36 26.32 14.04 3.85 3.30 3.50 3.50 3.40 0.00 #2
12 Kerstin FRANK AUT 39.00 23.60 15.40 4.20 3.55 3.95 3.70 3.85 0.00 #13
13 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL 38.48 22.72 15.76 4.10 3.70 4.10 3.95 3.85 0.00 #14
14 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 37.24 19.04 19.20 4.95 4.65 4.90 4.70 4.80 1.00 #27
15 Nicole GRAF SUI 36.04 20.60 15.44 4.00 3.70 3.95 3.80 3.85 0.00 #19
16 Roxana LUCA ROU 35.40 18.80 16.60 4.30 3.95 4.25 4.05 4.20 0.00 #26
17 Noemie SILBERER SUI 35.18 19.98 15.20 3.95 3.55 3.85 3.80 3.85 0.00 #3
18 Erle HARSTAD NOR 34.66 20.94 14.72 3.90 3.50 3.75 3.70 3.55 1.00 #17
19 Emma HAGIEVA AZE 33.96 21.08 13.88 3.75 3.10 3.60 3.50 3.40 1.00 #6
20 Katherine HADFORD HUN 33.76 18.24 15.52 4.10 3.50 4.10 3.85 3.85 0.00 #15
21 Zanna PUGACA LAT 30.90 18.10 12.80 3.40 3.10 3.30 3.15 3.05 0.00 #4
22 Sonia RADEVA BUL 30.64 16.80 14.84 3.85 3.50 3.75 3.75 3.70 1.00 #11
23 Mirna LIBRIC CRO 27.96 14.96 14.00 3.65 3.30 3.45 3.55 3.55 1.00 #20
24 Karina JOHNSON DEN 27.54 15.50 14.04 3.65 3.35 3.50 3.60 3.45 2.00 #18
25 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 27.22 14.18 14.04 3.55 3.35 3.60 3.50 3.55 1.00 #7
26 Julia SHEREMET BLR 26.56 12.40 14.16 4.00 3.30 3.60 3.40 3.40 0.00 #10
27 Clara PETERS IRL 25.82 13.82 12.00 3.00 2.65 3.10 3.20 3.05 0.00 #8
28 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU GRE 25.28 13.68 12.60 3.35 2.90 3.20 3.15 3.15 1.00 #1
29 Ani VARDANYAN ARM 18.62 8.34 10.28 2.75 2.40 2.60 2.65 2.45 0.00 #5

inca 11 concurente

mikeyy
23rd January 2009, 16:52
Am reusit sa vad cam jumate din progr Roxanei pe postul turcesc... mi-a mers cu intreruperi :(
Combinatia a facut-o varza: 2+1 :(

Tracoromana
23rd January 2009, 17:23
Acum se dau in direct la tvr2 ultimele 2 grupe. Poate in pauza vedem si programul Roxanei.

Cristinush
23rd January 2009, 18:39
Siii..s-a terminat SP-ul. Cat de..banal a cazut Caro! Dar mi-a placut foarte mult Susanna Pöykiö :D

Tracoromana
23rd January 2009, 18:40
Scuzati postul consecutiv, dar va rog sa urmariti la Eurosport SP-ul Iuliei Sebestyen si sa-mi spuneti si mie ce-ati inteles. (Noroc cu Cris ca nu e post consecutiv).

Nu stiu cum e cu contestatiile, sportivii pot face contestatii cum e la gimnastica de ex.?

Cristinush
23rd January 2009, 18:42
Asaaa..am uitat de asta. Nimic! a fost un program bun, la naiba, de ce a primit asa putin?! antrenorul era..cam in ceata la afisarea rezultatelor..nu prea-i venea sa creada, iar Iulia..cred ca i-au dat lacrimile. Cam nasol cu arbitrajul asta..

miafangina
23rd January 2009, 18:48
Chiar n-am înþeles nimic,Flavia,iar Auri la fel.În afarã de greºeala de la Axel altceva nu am vãzut sã fi fost.
Biata Julia,abia s-a abþinut sã nu izbucneascã în plîns.Auri a vãzut mai mult decît mine ºi zice c-au mai fost arbitraje ciudate.
Asta e,nu ma pricep.

andreeas
23rd January 2009, 18:49
m-a dezamagit programul fetelor, daca asa au de gand sa se prezinte la Mondiale, nu au nici o sasa la o clasare buna.:(

lady_k
23rd January 2009, 19:04
Eu nu am vazut programul Juliei, dar mi-a spus tata ca aprimit note foarte mici dupa parerea lui (si se uita si el la patinaj de pe vremea Irinei Rodnina:P). Poate ne explica Mihai daca poate...

Tracoromana
23rd January 2009, 19:22
Claudia, chiar acum e grupa Juliei la Eurosport.

Am incercat sa intru pe isuresult.com sa vad detaliile de la Total Segment Score, dar n-am reusit. Poate trebuie sa fii logat?

Explicatiile lui Bellu mi se par penibile, ca Iulia a sarit bine, dar ca a imbatranit si "inadmisibil" a facut simplu axel (ca si ocupanta locului 1 de altfel). Este la fel de batrana ca Fumie Suguri si ca Butyrskaya cand a castigat CM. Grr.rrr....

mikeyy
23rd January 2009, 20:29
Sunt dezamgit de arbitraj...azi la fete a fost crunt. Am vazut toate programele in afara de al Carolinei si a lui Poykio.
Flavia, doar dupa se termina si LP-ul vor pune desfasuratorul jurizarii.

Imi pare rau de Julia Sebestyen...a facut un program asa frumos...si anul trecut a ratat axelul la scurt dar tot a primit peste 50 cu mult...
Iar am impresia ca arbitrajul e de vina..parca au vrut sa elimine concurenta pt finlandeze....poate dau in paranoia, dar sunt dezamgit atat de arbitraj cat si de nivelul concursului.

Ati vazut ce a zis Negrea la Kiss and Cry? ceva de genul: "cati bani primim de la federatie, asa patinam"...nu prea mai tin minte cum s-a exprimat.

Poykio a gresit ceva la tehnic? Ca vad ca are mai putin decat lepisto?

Cristinush
23rd January 2009, 21:10
Poykio a avut un program curat din cate stiu eu..:thinkso:

miafangina
23rd January 2009, 21:12
Asta e ºi una dintre nedumeririle lui Auri(care nu vrea sã scrie,de lene,eu m-am autoinvestit ºi ca purtãtor de cuvînt al ei),n-a greºit Poykio.

Adeline
23rd January 2009, 21:26
Pe scurt!

1 Laura LEPISTÖ FIN 56.62
2 Susanna PÖYKIÖ FIN 56.06
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 51.36
4 Jenna MCCORKELL GBR 50.00
5 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 48.62
6 Ivana REITMAYEROVA SVK 48.00
7 Kiira KORPI FIN 47.60
8 Irina MOVCHAN UKR 46.48
9 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 46.26
10 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 45.24
11 Alena LEONOVA RUS 45.08
12 Annette DYTRT GER 44.06
13 Elena GLEBOVA EST 43.68
14 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 43.32
15 Teodora POSTIC SLO 43.28
16 Candice DIDIER FRA 42.84
17 Francesca RIO ITA 42.24
18 Stefania BERTON ITA 41.94
19 Manouk GIJSMAN NED 40.72
20 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 40.44
21 Karly ROBERTSON GBR 40.36
22 Kerstin FRANK AUT 39.00
23 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL 38.48
24 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 37.24
25 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 37.20
26 Nicole GRAF SUI 36.04
27 Roxana LUCA ROU 35.40
28 Noemie SILBERER SUI 35.18
29 Erle HARSTAD NOR 34.66
30 Emma HAGIEVA AZE 33.96
31 Katherine HADFORD HUN 33.76
32 Zanna PUGACA LAT 30.90
33 Sonia RADEVA BUL 30.64
34 Mirna LIBRIC CRO 27.96
35 Karina JOHNSON DEN 27.54
36 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 27.22
37 Julia SHEREMET BLR 26.56
38 Clara PETERS IRL 25.82
39 Maria PAPASOTIRIOU GRE 25.28
40 Ani VARDANYAN ARM 18.62
WD Jenna SYKEN ISR

ricochet4
23rd January 2009, 21:44
Apropo de Iulia Sebestyen:

Ivonne: "Ea a fost prezenta inca din 1993 la campionatele europene. Acum are 27 ani". :groggy:

Nicolae "ma apuca somnul" Belu: "Iulia a castigat la Budapesta in 2004, apoi in 2004 a iesit pe 4" :sleep:

Ca impresii dupa programul scurt:

- Competitie slaba. Multe absente. Carolina o sa le faca praf la liber.
- Finlandezele - una mai draguta ca alta.

praf_de_stele
23rd January 2009, 21:57
ba, sincer...mie mi`a placut de sotia lui kevin :D de jenna
si kevin a iesit pe 4 la scurt, apoi a luat bronz...sper sa faca si ea la fel...

in rest, plictisitoare competitie azi la fete...

miafangina
24th January 2009, 00:59
Medaliile de aur au revenit în fiecare probã altei þãri:Germania-Franþa-Rusia.
Urmeazã Finlanda sau Italia?

madalina18
24th January 2009, 01:02
nu am apucat sa vad competitia fetelor....dar sunt uimita de primele 2 locuri ocupate de finlandeze!
oricum,sunt multe absente,nu mai e la fel de interesanta competitia!
tot ce spun e ca nu imi doresc sa castige Carolina....prefer Finlanda!:D

ricochet4
24th January 2009, 01:02
Italia sigur.

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 01:09
Eu tin de aceasta data cu Carolina...si asta deoarece este singura care e capabila de programe de inalta clasa.
Dar daca nu va fi Caro, mi-ar placea sa castige Susana Poykio.

miafangina
24th January 2009, 01:39
ªi eu þin cu Carolina,dar dacã va fi pe merit nu mã supãr dacã pierde,doar sã fie corect,sã cîºtige cea mai bunã.

Tracoromana
24th January 2009, 11:38
Apropo de Iulia Sebestyen:

Ivonne: "Ea a fost prezenta inca din 1993 la campionatele europene. Acum are 27 ani". :groggy:

Nicolae "ma apuca somnul" Belu: "Iulia a castigat la Budapesta in 2004, apoi in 2004 a iesit pe 4" :sleep:

Ca impresii dupa programul scurt:

- Competitie slaba. Multe absente. Carolina o sa le faca praf la liber.
- Finlandezele - una mai draguta ca alta.

Cei 2 comentatori pe langa faptul ca mai sunt uneori incoerenti, se vede ca stiau deja rezultatele si doar pregateau terenul in creierul telespectatorilor pentru evolutiile slab cotate (Sebestyen) sau bine cotate (finlandezele). :o:


Poykio a gresit ceva la tehnic? Ca vad ca are mai putin decat lepisto?

La finlandeze Laura a sarit 3+3 dar apoi 1A, in rest program curat, iar Susanna a sarit 3+2 si a facut un program curat.

Iulya
24th January 2009, 12:41
Starting Order


Warm-Up Group 1
1 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE
2 Manouk GIJSMAN NED
3 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP
4 Kerstin FRANK AUT
5 Isabelle PIEMAN BEL
6 Karly ROBERTSON GBR

Warm-Up Group 2
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
8 Candice DIDIER FRA
9 Stefania BERTON ITA
10 Francesca RIO ITA
11 Elena GLEBOVA EST
12 Teodora POSTIC SLO

Warm-Up Group 3
13 Annette DYTRT GER
14 Alena LEONOVA RUS
15 Kiira KORPI FIN
16 Irina MOVCHAN UKR
17 Nella SIMAOVA CZE
18 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR

Warm-Up Group 4
19 Ivana REITMAYEROVA SVK
20 Jenna MCCORKELL GBR
21 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
22 Laura LEPISTÖ FIN
23 Susanna PÖYKIÖ FIN
24 Katarina GERBOLDT

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 17:08
Ce program frumos a facut Alena Leonova...ce fericita era la final :)
Si Anette Dytrt a facut frumos, si de ea mi-a placut
Kiira nu a facut fata presiunii..bine ca nu s-a accidentat!

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:05
Furt...daca merita Lepisto 110 pe programul ala unde a alternat 3 sarituri triple doar :(
Arbitrii....:(Nici macar nu a mai facut 3+3
A incercat un Lutz dar l-a facut simplu, Flip nici nu a incercat deloc.
La spirale a scapat picorul..nici nu trebuia sa primeasca nivel mare.

Nu se poate asa ceva....

Tracoromana
24th January 2009, 18:09
:mda: Ba se poate.

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:13
Flavia mie nu-mi vine sa cred sincer...de data asta e pe fata totul. Cum mai au nesimtirea sa zica ca acest cod de punctaj e mai bun decat cel cu 6.0


Pana si Poykio mi-a placut mai mult decat lepisto..doar ca Poykio a luat cu 10 puncte mai putin.
Ingrozitor

whisper
24th January 2009, 18:27
That's life.
Uite ca nu e Caro campioana cum credeam toti.
Ei, Mihai, stii ca se acorda 5% gazdelor :P

Tracoromana
24th January 2009, 18:33
Da, nu ma mai mira nimic. Eu n-am vazut programele fetelor din scoarta in scoarta fiindca m-am luat cu treburile casei si in ideea ca le vad diseara in reluare. Am remarcat doar costumul elegant al Carolinei si patinajul ei in viteza, faptul ca a reusit 3L chiar in comnbinatie, caci fetele finlandeze drept sa spun ma cam plictisesc.

Ei, asta e patinajul european, vom vedea cum si cat vor confirma la CM, mai ales finlandezele.

@Mihai, daca intri la isuresult, ne arati si noua elementele tehnice la fete, dansuri....

Gabri3l
24th January 2009, 18:36
Kostner merita sa castige...

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:37
5% e putin Ade in cazul de fata!

Ma uitam pe fisele de arbitraj..Lui Lepisto i-au dat bonus 1pct la 2axel...nici Mao Asada nu primeste asa bonus mare in competitiile mari..si stim ca Mao e capabila de 3axel..deci la ea 2 axel e perfect. De asemenea i-au dat nivel 4 la spirale la fel ca si Carolinei...si ma scuzati dar diferenta clara intre tinuta Carolinei la spirale si cea a lui Lepisto care a coborat piciorul sub umar.
Bine ca la alti patinatori au scazut din orice, iar lui Lepisto nu stiu de unde sa-i mai pluseze. Si Kiirei i-au plusat destul de mult.

Pentru mine cel mai dragut program a fost al rusoaicei Alena leonova..de pe locul 11 pe locul 4..extraordinar. Si bineinteles si Carolina a dat dovada ca are stofa...nu ea e preferata mea nr1, dar ii recunosc talentul si performantele

Vom vedea in mai putin de 2 luni unde se va afla campioana europeana din 2009 la CM........

whisper
24th January 2009, 18:39
la mondiale le va fi greu sa se pastreze in primele 5, cel putin finlandezelor, parerea mea. nu stiu nici daca Kostner va prinde top 5.

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:40
@Mihai, daca intri la isuresult, ne arati si noua elementele tehnice la fete, dansuri....


Fete -LP:http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
Fete-SP: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf

Dans -FD: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_FD_Scores.pdf
Dans - OD: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_OD_Scores.pdf
Dans - CD:http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_CD_Scores.pdf Surprize surprize..la italienii mari nu apare nicaieri cu minus..ca si cand nu s-ar fi intamplat nimic la CD si ar fi facut ultima secventa asa cum scrie la carte...nu au primit nici in plus si nici nu le-a scazut...INCREDBIBIL :headbang:

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:41
la mondiale le va fi greu sa se pastreze in primele 5, cel putin finlandezelor, parerea mea. nu stiu nici daca Kostner va prinde top 5.

Nu conteaza locul ocupat..ci va conta sa vedem cat obtine Caro si cat obtine Laura...prevad diferente de peste 10 puncte..cel putin la programul lung!

lady_k
24th January 2009, 18:41
Nu m-a impresionat Lepisto, desi nu recunosc intotdeauna sariturile mi s-a parut mie ca nu au fost de un nivel tehnic ridicat. Imi pare rau de Carolina. Cu toate ca nu a avut aterizari curate, eu zic ca ea merita aurul:(....

Geografu
24th January 2009, 18:43
Sunt putin trist dupa aceasta proba, pentru ca favorita mea Caro nu a triumfat din nou la CE.
Si macar daca pierdea la cineva de prim rang, dar asa cum a zis si comentatorul, sariturile au fost de valoare mica, triplul loop-ul a fost de toata jena, ce a punctat la piruete, spirale si artistic a fost ceva.
M-au impresionat Poykio si mai ales Leonova, care prevad ca va lua medalie la JO 2010 !

whisper
24th January 2009, 18:49
Si totusi Laura e o patinatoare buna, anul trecut a patinat foarte bine, poate pana la mondiale isi va mai inbunatati programele .

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 18:53
Si totusi Laura e o patinatoare buna, anul trecut a patinat foarte bine, poate pana la mondiale isi va mai inbunatati programele .

Da anul trecut a patinat mai bine decat acum atat la SP cat si la LP dar a luat mai putin decat acum cand a avut ratari atat la scurt cat si la lung.
Nu zic ca nu e patinatoare buna, patineaza frumos, are gratie, are tot ce ii ttrebuie ca sa dea bine...dar atat..nu merita sa fie campioana.

Lui Caro i-a iesit pana si Lutz-ul si l-a facut in combinatie cu alte 2 duble....deci..nimic nu ma va convinge ca Laura a meritat acest titlu. Locul 2 era potrivit pt ea..si daca ma gandesc bine Sussana merita sa fie peste ea!


Anul trecut cand a mers f bine la scurt si bine la lung a facut 165.65 la total..iar acum cu greseala de la scurt la axel si fara 3-3 la lung a facut 167.32

andreeas
24th January 2009, 18:59
imi pare rau ca a pierdut Carolina.
mi-au placut Anette Dytrt, Alena Leonova, Poykio, Kiira Korpi, Katrina Gerboldt. Din pacate Kiira nu a rezistat bine presiunii... :( Este prima oara cand mi-a parut rau de ratarile Kiirei.

Cristinush
24th January 2009, 19:05
Sincer mie mi-a placut Susanna :D de 10 ori mai mult decat Laura, care...da, e ok, e gratioasa, sare..dar..i s-a dat cam mult. Caro a pierdut datorita programului scurt in mare parte, as zice eu, dar si datorita incorectitudinii arbitrilor. Cu toate ca nu e preferata mea, merita mai mult, e singura patinatoare europeana care daca se concentreaza poate sa faca fata la nivel mondial asiaticelor. Au fost favorizati multi la campionatul asta, dar cel mai deranjant e ca totul a fost asa..pe fata..
Kiira e clar ca nu se poate concentra..si anul trecut..a fost pe 1 dupa programul scurt si la lung a dat-o-n bara in asa fel incat nu a prins podiumul. De cine imi mai pare rau e Jenna McCorkell. Daca reusea sa faca sariturile alea bine, poate o vedeam pe podium, dar asa...uite podiumul, nu e podiumul http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-522.gif :P

ricochet4
24th January 2009, 19:11
Nu mi-a placut ca a castigat Laura. Nu-mi place Carolina, dar vorba lui Platon (sper sa nu gresesc), mi-e mai prieten adevarul. Laura a facut un exercitiu prea putin greu si a ratat si 3L (a facut doar simplu). Carolina o fi avut ea mici scapari (2 in loc de 3) si alte mici inclinari prin aer, dar in general, programul ei a fost mult mai bun decat al Laurei, nu doar cu 3 sau 4 puncte. Au fost ca nimic 10 puncte intre cele 2 evolutii. Dar inca odata, masinatiunile politice si-au spus cuvantul si arbitri si-au dat in stamba. Din punctul meu de vedere, rusine !

Oricum, Belu se pricepe la pronosticuri ca eu la triplu Salchow. Jena pe podium - in final locul 9, Laura nu are cum sa castige - in final locul 1. Pana la urma, Ivonne, in nepriceperea chibitului nespecialist, a nimerit-o.

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 19:12
Rusoaica Leonova merita toate felicitarile..a reusit sa faca toata gama de sarituri triple!!!
Sper ca la urmatoarea schimbare de cod sa se bage si faza cu bonus acordat celor care fac toata gama de triple.
De asemenea la Alena am regasit bucuria Elenei Sokolova cand facea programe frumoase. Si-a castigat un sustinator pt asta!!!

Nu ca finlandezele care vin cu 3 triple din 5 (exceptie Poykio)

ricochet4
24th January 2009, 19:17
Poykio e cea mai buna pentru ca nu se ascunde dupa matura. Ea incearca. Ma supara ca Eurosport nu a dat decat ultima grupa. Asa ca nu am putut sa o vad pe Leonova. Cine o antreneaza ? Bravo !

Am vazut-o pe Masha in tribune cu parul desfacut. :floricica:

mikeyy
24th January 2009, 19:20
Pe Leonova o antreneaza Alla Piatova. SI inca un lucru referitor la Alena.. a luat cel mai mare punctaj la tehnic, mai mare decat Carolina.

Cu Alena trebuie lucrat la artistic, la tranzitii..daca isi remediaza problemele astea poate fi mare!

Alin de ce nu te-ai uitat pe TVR..ca au dat si penultima grupa si puteai sa le vezi pe Alena si Anette care au facut programe foarte frumoase!

Anette tocmai a obtinut cea mai buna clasare din cariera..ii prieste sa se antreneze cu Huth!

praf_de_stele
24th January 2009, 19:53
eu n`am vazut nimic... la eurosport n`au dat :| si de tvr2 am uitat :huhu:
doamne, voiam sa castige carolina...pe bune acum :(

o sa ma uit cand o da eurosport in reluare

ricochet4
24th January 2009, 19:58
Pai nu-mi place la TVR ca se vede mic, ei dau ecran lat dar pun ca prostii doua dungi negre sus si jos si rezultatul e ca se vede totul mic si nu-mi place nici comentariul lui Alexoi (cred ca ea a fost si azi). Daca ar fi fost Negrea si Enachescu ar fi fost super. Dar vorba lui Ade, am uitat de TVR, ca puteam macar prima parte sa ma uit la ei.

Tracoromana
24th January 2009, 21:29
Fete -LP:http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
Fete-SP: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf

Dans -FD: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_FD_Scores.pdf
Dans - OD: http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_OD_Scores.pdf
Dans - CD:http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2009/ec09_IceDance_CD_Scores.pdf Surprize surprize..la italienii mari nu apare nicaieri cu minus..ca si cand nu s-ar fi intamplat nimic la CD si ar fi facut ultima secventa asa cum scrie la carte...nu au primit nici in plus si nici nu le-a scazut...INCREDBIBIL :headbang:

Mersi Mihai.

Geografu
24th January 2009, 21:41
Se va vedea la CM ca aceasta fetita de abia va prinde primele 10 pozitii.
Sunt convins de acest lucru.
In schimb Caro, daca nu va mai repeta acele greseli impardonabile de la SP, se va lupta pentru aur ! :ok:

praf_de_stele
24th January 2009, 22:15
sunt de acord cu alex !!!! n`am cum sa nu fiu...tre` sa fiu obiectiva :P

miafangina
24th January 2009, 23:00
Imi pare tare rau pentru Carolina,cred ca a fost nedreptatita.:huhu:
Asa-i viata uneori.
Mie mi-au placut rusoaicele,am dat pe tvr fix cind primea punctajele Leonova,mi-a placut explozia ei de bucurie de la sfirsitul programului.Este loc de mare progres la aceste fete.
Kira a fost foarte frumoasa,mi-a parut rau ca s-a lovit de mantinela,parea ca o doare rau,am crezut ca s-a accidentat,bine ca a putut sa continue.

madalina18
24th January 2009, 23:37
Imi pare si mie fff rau de Kiira!:(
si se pare ca eu sunt singura care o plac pe Laura!:D
sincer eu dupa ce le-am vazut la ambele fete programele,adica la Laura si Caro,am zis ca imi doresc sa castige Laura desi a avut o greseala mai mare,decat Caro la care mai toate aterizarile nu au fost curate!
Bravo pt Laura si Susana....pt ele chiar ma bucur sincer!/OLE//OLE/

praf_de_stele
24th January 2009, 23:58
ma, da` astia de la eurosport nu le`au dat pe caro si pe kiira, acum in reluare :groggy: nu sunt normali...

ricochet4
25th January 2009, 01:05
Pai pe Kiira nu a dat-o nici in direct. Sint niste diletanti cei de la Eurosport. Cred ca nici nu stiu cine e Carolina. Au trebuit sa taie pe cineva pentru a baga reclamele lor idioate cu tarile lumii a treia si mate si caini care umplu de bale ecranul si gem si au taiat-o pe Carolina.

praf_de_stele
25th January 2009, 01:52
am vazut programul carolinei pe youtube si a fost de departe cel mai bun din concurs...fara nicio discutie...sariturile executate corect, doar usoare ezitari la 2(ma refer la aterizari, dar le`a tinut oricum)...si acum nu stiu cat o fi pierdut ea la sp incat sa piarda medalia de aur...mi se pare ciudat...

ricochet4
25th January 2009, 04:07
Am inteles ca programul Leonovei a fost mai bun. Nu l-am vazut, dar asa am citit aici.

Iulya
25th January 2009, 11:49
Alin uite programul Leonovei:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXCSRV6YGU



Lepisto wins ladies title in Helsinki
Kostner wins free but finishes with silver medal

http://web.icenetwork.com/images/2009/01/24/wpTOBtMX.jpg

(01/24/2009) - Finland's Laura Lepistö, who won the bronze medal last year, won the ladies event at the 2009 European Championships, the first win in history for a Finnish lady at Europeans.

Lepistö, who led after the short program, was second in the free skate with a season-high 110.70 points. She had 167.32 points in total.

Skating to the motion picture soundtrack Don Juan Demarco, Lepistö skated a clean program, except for popping a planned triple Lutz.

She landed triple toe-double toe, triple loop-double toe, and triple Salchow-double toe combinations, plus a triple loop and two double Axels.

"This is an indescribable feeling," Lepistö said. "I could never have imagined this to happen. I had said that my goal is to medal, but that it would be gold, I can't realize it.

"This was one of the best days of my life, and I will probably, never, ever forget it."

Italy's Carolina Kostner, the defending European champion, won the free skate with a season-high 114.06 points.

Skating to "Dumky Trio" by Anton Dvorak, Kostner received no points for her combination spin, and that was the difference between silver and gold.

Kostner landed a triple Lutz-double toe-double loop, double Axel-double toe loop, and triple flip-double toe loop combinations, although the latter was planned as a triple-triple.

She also landed a double Axel, a triple Salchow and a triple loop, but she doubled a planned triple flip.

A of 165.42 points gave Kostner the silver medal.

"I am very pleased," Kostner said. "It's good to see that I'm improving [in her score].

"I'm happy for Laura that she could win in front of her home crowd," she added. "This must be an amazing feeling. Next year, the world championships are in my home town, so I hope I can do the same."

Finland's Susanna Pöykiö, who was second after the short, scored a season-high 100.25 points in the free skate to place third in the segment. With 156.31 points, she won the bronze medal, her second medal at the Europeans after winning a silver in 2005.

"I'm really pleased about winning the bronze medal, but I could have skated better," Pöykiö said. "I'm disappointed about doing only double Lutz-double toe combination and double flip."

Pöykiö had planned a triple Lutz-double toe and a triple flip. She also under-rotated a triple toe loop late in the program.

Pöykiö completed a triple flip-triple toe-triple loop and triple toe-double toe combinations, a triple Salchow and a double Axel.

She skated to "Scherzando" from "Cello Sonata in G Minor," "Melody on a Theme," and "Allegro Scherzando" from "Piano Concerto No. 2" by Sergei Rachmaninov.

Russia's Alena Leonova, who was 11th in the short, fought back to take fourth in the long and overall with 98.91 and 143.99 points, respectively, both personal bests.

She skated to "La Leyenda del Beso" by Raul di Blasio.

"I'm in shock," Leonova said. "This was my best performance so far."

Leonova landed triple flip-double toe and triple Salchow-double toe-double loop combinations, but she stepped out of the second jump on her triple toe-double Axel sequence.

She also landed a triple Lutz, a triple loop, a triple flip, and a double Axel.

Finland's Kiira Korpi, who won the bronze medal in 2007, skated to "Crooked Room" and "Passenger to Copenhagen" by Kerkko Koskinen. She slipped off her edge and slid hard into the boards a few seconds into her program as she accelerated around the turn. Although shaken up by the fall, she came back to score 91.41 points to place sixth in the free skate.

She rose from seventh after the short to finish fifth overall with 139.01 points.

"I guess this is figure skating drama at its best," Korpi stated, "or in my case, at its worst. I honestly can't say what happened. The rest of the program was a fight. I can't be disappointed after such a bad beginning."

After her re-start, Korpi popped her opening triple Lutz but came back to land a triple Salchow-double toe loop combination, a triple loop and a triple Salchow.

She under-rotated the opening triple loop in a planned triple loop-double toe-double toe combination and left out the other two jumps before finishing with a double Axel-double toe loop combination and a double Axel.

Russia's Katarina Gerboldt, who skated to Bizet's "Carmen," scored a personal-best 88.43 points but placed eighth in the free skate.

Fifth after the short, Gerboldt dropped to sixth overall with 137.05 points.

"It was hard to skate after the top skaters and all the noise for the Finns," said Gerboldt, who followed Lepistö and Pöykiö to the ice. "It's a little upsetting that I lost to Alena Leonova, but I was sick, and she could prepare better."

"The Russian girls fulfilled the goal to secure three spots [for next year], while the men didn't," she added. "It's too early to write off the Russian girls."

Both Russian girls were competing in their first European championships.

Germany's Annette Dytrt, skating to Camille Saint-Saens "The Swan," scored 92.92 points in the free skate, 15 points above her season best, to place fifth in the segment. She landed a triple Salchow-double toe loop and double Axel-double toe loop combination, a triple flip, a triple loop, a triple Salchow and a double Axel, but she doubled a planned triple toe loop.

She was only 12th after the short, but with 136.98 points, Dytrt was seventh overall, her best finish at Europeans.

"My goal was to make the top six," Dytrt said. "I couldn't do it after the short. But I'm happy."

Adeline
25th January 2009, 13:17
Mi s-a luat de filandezii astia, macar daca era programat sa ia o filandeza aurul sa fi fost Suzana pt ca ea este veche in competitii si imi place patinajul ei.

Vom vedea in timp daca Laura va fi o noua Kimmie...de data asta europeana:drak:

mikeyy
25th January 2009, 13:17
Am revazut si eu programul lui Leonova....a fost cel mai curat program al serii, fara greseala!!!

Sper ca rusii sa-i aduca cei mai coregrafi, cei mai buni antrenori..si la anul sa o vedem pe podium la CE!

Va fi interesant sa vedem pe cine va trimite Rusia la CM..au doar un 1 loc pt fete: pe Gerboldt sau pe Leonova....eu sper ca pe Leonova:)

praf_de_stele
25th January 2009, 15:00
da, superb programul rusoaicei :)

Tracoromana
25th January 2009, 16:00
Excelent programul Alenei Leonova. Alena are charisma, atrage atentia, nu te plictiseste, dupa cum nici Caro nu-i plictisitoare chiar daca greseste. Si cum spune Mihai ar trebui sa se dea un bonus pentru executia intregii game de sarituri triple. Alena a fost Ponsero-ul fetelor.

mikeyy
25th January 2009, 16:21
Carolinei la programul lung nu i-au dat o pirueta, i-au considerat-o invalida...nu am inteles prea bine explicatia, dar oricum mi se pare absurd. Cred ca arbitrii nu au stiut de unde sa-i mai scada si au inceput sa anuleze elemente din diferite motive.
Offf...chiar imi pare rau de Caro, nu merita sa i se intample asa ceva.
Chiar citisem undeva o mica gluma...ca acolo unde le sunt ascutite patinele inainte de concurs...i-ar fi umblat Carolinei la patine inainte de scurt :ras-plans:

Daca merita cineva sa o bata pe Caro, acea persoana era Sarah Meier.....ma bucur ca nu a participat Sarah...erau in stare sa o dea jos de pe podium doar ca bage 2 finlandeze.

Si Juliei...nu i-au dat credit pe sarituri la scurt..si asta e total aiurea..deoarece Julia e recunoscuta pt faptul ca Lutz-ul si Flip-ul sunt cele mai bune sarituri ale ei.

Cristinush
25th January 2009, 19:20
Mi-a placut Leonova, am impresia ca are ceva din farmecul Irinei Slutskaya :)

praf_de_stele
25th January 2009, 19:29
sa stii ca asa e...asa mi s`a parut si mie :) e tare simpatica

ricochet4
25th January 2009, 21:45
Merci, Iulya.

Iulya
3rd February 2009, 00:58
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT to all Carolina fans and figure skating fans.

We would like to inform you that the complaint submitted by the Italian Skating Federation (FISG) to the ISU concerning the marks Carolina received by the technical pannel for the long program at the European Figure Skating Championships HAS BEEN ACCEPTED and will be discussed by the ISU commission. The Italian Skating Federations (FISG) will update us as soon as the ISU provides the official release with the final decision.

A spin in Carolina's long program was not counted - not because she made a mistake but because of a debatable interpretation of the rules, therefore the "sit spin" was called a "combination spin".
Carolina lost gold not for something she has not done but because of a quarter of revolution over the maximum of revolutions allowed in upright position at the end of her sit spin.

On Carolina's behalf, thanks everyone for your support!

Mancini Group - Carolina's management

http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64077
http://www.carolina-kostner.it/E-index2.htm

andreeas
3rd February 2009, 01:02
parca a mai fost pus acest anunt pe topicul dedicat Carolinei de catre madalina.
oricum Carolina trebuie sa se lamureasca de ce nu i-a fost luata in considerare pirueta, eventual sa nu o mai repete la Mondiale.

madalina18
3rd February 2009, 03:29
da,l-am mai pus si eu,dar nu e nimica,lasati sa prinda toti oamenii informatia!:D
oare nu se mai stie nimica despre contestatie?:mda:

Iulya
16th February 2009, 20:38
ISU Quickly Dismissed Kostner's Scoring Protest



The International Skating Union (ISU) immediately dealt with protest over the scoring of Carolina Kostner’s long program at the 2009 European Championships, according to an ISU official.

"As per Rule 123 of the ISU General Regulations 2008, no protest is allowed for field of play decisions. Therefore the result as published is final," ISU Media Coordinator Devra Pitt Getaz told International Figure Skating.

A miscommunication appears to have occurred regarding the protest. According to the Mancini Group, which represents Kostner, a "complaint submitted by the Italian Skating Federation (FISG) to the ISU” concerning Kostner’s marks by the technical panel for the long program at the European Championships was “accepted" and would "be discussed by the ISU commission.”

Pitt Getaz shot down that statement. "At no time did the ISU 'accept' any such protest and at no time did a 'commission' have a hearing about this. ... There was a protest filed by the Italian member (FISG) on Saturday, January 24, which was immediately dismissed in writing by the referee in accordance with Rule 123," she said.

The notice from the management group was posted on Kostner's official website after the competition but no longer appears on the site. Instead the home page notes Kostner is the 2009 European silver medalist.

The post regarding the issue noted: “a spin in Carolina’s long program was not counted — not because she made a mistake but because of a debatable interpretation of the rules, therefore the 'sit spin' was called a 'combination spin.'"

Kostner went into the 2009 European Championships in Helsinki as the two-time and defending champion. She was dethroned by Finland’s Laura Lepistö.

Lepistö won the competition with an overall competition mark of 167.32 points to Kostner's 165.42.

ISU Rule 123, section 4 (Protest Restrictions) states:

"No protests against evaluations by Referees, Judges and the Technical Panel (Technical Controller, Technical Specialists, Data Operator, Replay Operator) of Skaters’ performances are allowed;

"Protests against results are permitted only in the case of incorrect mathematical calculation. A wrong identification of an element or of a level of difficulty, although it results in a lower or higher score, is a human error and not an incorrect mathematical calculation;

"However, if the Referee learns: prior to the beginning of the award ceremony or prior to the official announcement of results if there is no award ceremony, that a human error relating to a wrong data input by the Data Operator occurred, the Referee may correct the error provided that the Technical Controller, both Technical Specialists and the Data Operator all agree that there was an error. ..."

The rule indicates that protests regarding “incorrect mathematical calculation” may be filed within 24 hours after the completion of the competition concerned.

Finland’s figure skating federation and Lespito had no comment on the situation.

Emails to Kostner’s management group (seeking comment from Kostner and her manager), and the Italian federation were not answered.