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    Saddam Hussein a fost prins!

    Saddam a fost prins, dau o lu` Bushica
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    For real? :O
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    For sure, de data asta nu este o clona, i-au facut toate analizele, el e!
    Are barba si arata like hell
    Vezi pe cnn.
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    Sa speram ca va fi...liniste !

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    Si eu sper, nu de alta dar Iraqul e la cateva zeci de km de unde stau eu
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    Toata ziua a fost numai Saddam pe toate televiziunile. Parca am retrai capturarea lui Ceausescu.
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    Stiri despre capturarea lui Saddam Hussein

    U.S. forces capture Saddam in Iraq
    'In the history of Iraq, a dark and painful era is over,' Bush declares


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    Saddam Hussein after his capture in a photograph shown Sunday at a news conference in Baghdad.

    BREAKING NEWS
    NBC News and news services
    Updated: 12:47 p.m. ET Dec. 14, 2003BAGHDAD, Iraq - Eight months after the fall of his government, former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was captured by U.S. forces near his hometown, Tikrit, where he was hiding in a farmhouse cellar, U.S. officials said Sunday.

    The arrest, which was carried out without a single shot being fired, was a major victory for the coalition, which has been battling an insurgency for months, and for President Bush, who has fended off criticism for failing to find him for almost as long.

    Saddam had evaded capture and assassination attempts since the U.S.-led coalition invaded Iraq on March 20. Despite a $25 million bounty on his head, Saddam remained a political thorn in Bush's side and an inspiration to anti-U.S. insurgents even as the coalition sent out thousands of soldiers to search for him from its new headquarters in the sprawling, gold-edged Republican Palace compound in Baghdad.

    Sunday, Bush was able to make the proclamation that the White House had awaited for months: “Yesterday, December 13th, at around 8:30 p.m. Baghdad time, United States military forces captured Saddam Hussein alive.”

    Addressing the nation from the Cabinet Room, Bush promised that "the former dictator of Iraq will face the justice he denied to millions. In the history of Iraq, a dark and painful era is over. A hopeful day has arrived."

    But Bush warned that "the capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq. We still face terrorists who would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the rise of liberty in the heart of the Middle East."

    Within hours, large explosions rocked central Baghdad and flames and thick smoke rose from central Baghdad. Police said a fuel canister exploded on a truck, but witnesses told Reuters that a car bomb detonated. Shortly afterward, bursts of gunfire rang out from the central Baghdad area of Karadah.

    Video of a tired Saddam
    The U.S. administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, said Saddam was captured in the town of Dour, 10 miles south of Tikrit, ending one of the most intense manhunts in history.

    Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, who saw Saddam overnight, said the deposed leader "has been cooperative and is talkative." He described Saddam as "a tired man, a man resigned to his fate."

    At the news conference announcing his capture, U.S. forces aired a video showing a bearded Saddam being examined by a doctor who held his mouth open with a tongue depressor, apparently to get a DNA sample. Then they showed a photograph of Saddam after he was shaved.

    Iraqi journalists in the audience stood, pointed and shouted "Death to Saddam!" and "Down with Saddam!"

    Saddam was being held at an undisclosed location, Sanchez said.

    "This success brings closure to the Iraqi people," he said. "Saddam Hussein will never return to a position of power from which he can punish, terrorize, intimidate and exploit the Iraqi people as the did for more than 35 years."

    Sanchez said U.S. authorities had yet to determine whether to turn Saddam over to a new Iraqi tribunal for trial. But Ahmad Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress, said later Sunday that he would be handed over to the Iraqi people for trial in the very near <beep><beep><beep>ure.

    British Prime Minister Tony Blair welcomed the capture. "This is very good news for the people of Iraq. It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare of a return to the Saddam regime," he said in a statement released by his office.

    "This fear is now removed," the statement continued. "It also gives an opportunity for Saddam to be tried in Iraqi courts for his crimes against the Iraqi people. We should try now to unite the whole of Iraq in rebuilding the country and offering it a new <beep><beep><beep>ure."

    Blair faced substantial domestic opposition for his decision to commit British troops to the Iraq war and, like Bush, is sure to get a major political boost from the reported capture.

    Operation Red Dawn
    Forces from the Army's 4th Infantry Division along with Special Forces captured Saddam, the U.S. military said. There were no shots fired or injuries in the raid, which was called Operation Red Dawn, Sanchez said.

    A Pentagon diagram showed the hiding place as a 6-foot-deep vertical "spider hole," with a shorter tunnel branching out horizontally from one side. A pipe to the concrete surface at ground level provided air. The entrance to the hideout was under the floor of a small, walled compound with a room in one corner and a lean-to attached to the room.

    The hid-out was across a river from one of Saddam’s palaces, roughly in the middle of the compound.

    A U.S. defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Saddam admitted his identity when captured. Sanchez, meanwhile, said that two men affiliated with Saddam were also detained and that soldiers confiscated two Kalashnikov rifles, a pistol, a taxi and $750,000 in $100 U.S. bills.

    The operation was based on information from a member of a family “close to him,” Maj. Gen. Ray Odierno, commander of 4th Infantry Division, said in Tikrit. “Finally we got the ultimate information from one of these individuals.”

    Celebrations in Baghdad
    Celebratory gunfire erupted in the capital, and shop owners closed their doors, fearful that the shooting would make the streets unsafe.

    "I'm very happy for the Iraqi people. Life is going to be safer now," said Yehya Hassan, 35, of Baghdad. "Now we can start a new beginning."

    Earlier in the day, rumors of the capture sent people streaming into the streets of Kirkuk, a northern city, firing guns in the air in celebration.

    "We are celebrating like it's a wedding," said Kirkuk resident Mustapha Sheriff. "We are finally rid of that criminal."

    "This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident. "I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule."

    In Tikrit, U.S. soldiers lit up cigars.

    "The intimidation and fear this man generated for over 30 years are now gone," Odierno said.

    Some skepticism
    Still, many residents of Baghdad were skeptical.


    "I heard the news, but I'll believe it when I see it," said Mohaned al-Hasaji, 33. "They need to show us that they really have him."

    Ayet Bassem, 24, walked out of a shop with her 6-year-old son.

    "Things will be better for my son," she said. "Everyone says everything will be better when Saddam is caught. My son now has a <beep><beep><beep>ure."

    From hiding, U.S. commanders have said Saddam played some role in the anti-U.S. resistance that has killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians in Iraq.

    In the latest attack, a suspected suicide bomber detonated explosives in a car outside a police station Sunday morning west of Baghdad, killing at least 17 people and wounding 33 more, the U.S. military said.

    NBC News correspondents, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this story.

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    ****** mamii lui de Saddam who cares about Saddam?
    Au inrerupt ei meciul pentru reportaje cu prinderea lui.Nu aveau timp sa dea toata saptamana? Fac atata caz....oricum lui Saddam ii va fi mai bine in inchisorile unde o sa-l bage decat in tunelu in care era de ceva luni. Eu cred ca a cooperat. Prinderea lui este un succes dar asta nu inseamna ca trebuia sa intrerupa meciul si sa ne toace nervii.
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    Macar au intrerupt meciul la penalty-uri?

    Despre Saddam, eu zic ca e posibil sa fi fost prins de mai demult, doar acum au "iesit" cu stirea... vezi momentul dificil al UE, in speranta unei redresari a $ in defavoarea Euro! E posibil... De gândit!

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    Nu este adevarat....este un moment de mandrie pt americani ca l-au prins pe Saddam, nu l-ar fi tinut ascuns atata timp!
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    Dar oare e Saddam? Tin minte ca americanii spuneau dupa cucerirea Bagdadului ca nu au date concrete pentru identificarea certa a lui Saddam, tot ei afirmand ca erau vreo 4 sosii ale lui…
    Dintr-o data au…In sfarsit, important este sa se linisteasca apele in zona…
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    I-au recunoscut ADN-ul, l-au comparat cu cel trecut, si este acelasi, nu dadeau ei stirea daca nu era totul sigur, e sarbatoare in tarile arabe acum
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    Oltenii nu se dezmint. "Cei mai buni dintre romani" dixit:

    "e sarbatoare in tarile arabe acum"
    "important este sa se linisteasca apele in zona…"
    "****** mamii lui de Saddam who cares about Saddam?"
    ". Parca am retrai capturarea lui Ceausescu. "
    "Sa speram ca va fi...liniste ! "
    "Si eu sper"
    Plus berile de rogoare.
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    Ce ai muica, esti bolnav?
    Ce bausi?
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    Ma intreb ce le-o fi trebuit atat timp ca sa-l gaseasca. Doar nu era Mama Omida, sa le faca farmce . Era cam terminat moshu', si se scarpina cam suspect in freza aia deranjata, incep sa il cred ca s-a predat fara prea mare tam-tam. Pe de alta parte, nu cred ca prinderea lui Saddam va afecat prea mult evolutia dolarului. Oricum, euro este dat peste cap de ratarea proiectului de constituie. Deh... i-a pus sa le dea polonezilor drept de vot. Ca veni vorba, adevarul este undeva la mijloc, nu merge nici ideea franco-germana, de a vota dupa aportul la economia Uniunii, nici ideea "descultilor" (Spania, Polonia) care exceleaza numai la po<beep><beep><beep><beep>tie, iar economic sunt zero.
    Pentru sederei:
    "Sunt succese care te injosesc si infrangeri care te inalta." (Nicolae Iorga)
    "Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei." (Sigmund Freud)
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    eu nu cred ca l-au prins. tot ceea ce vine de la americani este minciuna, inscenare...
    Stiu pretul a toate si valoarea a nimic.

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    Nici chiar asa! Eu stiu ca dupa filmul "Wag the dog" ideea ca totul e o conspiratie si o inscenare are din ce in ce mai multi adepti! Right?
    Poate totusi sunem in "Matrix" si nu ne dam seama! Oare?
    Sau sa ne luam dupa X-Files... si al sau "Trust no one!" ??? Hmm...

    Confused? Which one is it? All of them? None?

    Americanii au lansat ideea ca urmatorul prins va fi Bin Laden... s-o vedem si pe asta! Spre deosebire de Saddam, care a trait toata viata lui in lux... Bin Laden a stat prin vagaune cea mai mare parte a vietii, asa ca are experienta de partea lui, unlike Saddam!

    Pentru sceptici:
    - Ar mai fi o idee... daca mostra de ADN a lui Saddam pe care americanii o aveau deja era a unei clone, iar americanii au capturat acum tocmai acea clona?

    - Daca Saddam a murit de mai demult, dar persoana care a aparut in fata e tot o clona?


    Sa fim seriosi... trebuie sa credem ceea ce vedem, nu putem sa negam chiar totul! Can we?
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    Daca si numai daca....
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    Cred ca problema ar trebui pusa altfel: l-au capturat, ori s-a lasat capturat? Sau, daca asta nu suna bine, ca Saddam era paranoic etc., hai sa pun alta intrrebare: l-au capturat acum, ori cu oarece timp in urma? si l-au declarat prins abia duminica?
    Pentru sederei:
    "Sunt succese care te injosesc si infrangeri care te inalta." (Nicolae Iorga)
    "Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei." (Sigmund Freud)
    " Violenta este ultimul refugiu al incompetentei." (Isaac Asimov)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigel Sportul
    Cred ca problema ar trebui pusa altfel: l-au capturat, ori s-a lasat capturat? Sau, daca asta nu suna bine, ca Saddam era paranoic etc., hai sa pun alta intrrebare: l-au capturat acum, ori cu oarece timp in urma? si l-au declarat prins abia duminica?
    L-au capturat acum, l-au declarat prins cand au fost sigur ca a fost el, i-au facut fel de fel de teste si au descoperit ca el este
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    Quote Originally Posted by ady_azzuro
    L-au capturat acum, l-au declarat prins cand au fost sigur ca a fost el, i-au facut fel de fel de teste si au descoperit ca el este
    Cred ca i-au comparat pana si pH-ul din gura, asta ca-n reclama aia cretina de la guma de mestecat. Nu am dubii ca l-ar fi prins duminica, supozitia cu declararea "post factum" a capturii era creditata de mine cu sanse minime. Dintr-un singur motiv: americanii sunt cu mult prea orgoliosi ca sa amane anuntarea unei realizari "epocale". Se pare ca aceasta captura nu a ajutat prea tare marafetul verde, dupa cateva zile piata monetara a reintrat la normal: adica dolarul a revenit la cotatia de joi si euro a crescu de asemenea. Ceea ce dovedeste ca, pentru europeni, ratarea constitutiei comunitare nu este o tragedie de netrecut.
    Pentru sederei:
    "Sunt succese care te injosesc si infrangeri care te inalta." (Nicolae Iorga)
    "Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei." (Sigmund Freud)
    " Violenta este ultimul refugiu al incompetentei." (Isaac Asimov)

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